Page 30 of 66 FirstFirst ... 20282930313240 ... LastLast
  1.    02 Feb 2017 #291
    Join Date : Oct 2014
    Posts : 553
    ,7,8.1 10TP 10upgrade,MINT

    Does anyone know why these latest builds have to go through the initialising process? I don't remember the dozens of earlier ones doing this.
      My ComputerSystem Spec
  2.    02 Feb 2017 #292
    Join Date : Oct 2014
    Posts : 17,565
    Windows 10 Insider Preview Build 16281

    Quote Originally Posted by Fafhrd View Post
    The problem is that UUP needs a big test base, and if wimpy Insiders circumvent it, by ESD or WZOR, it ain't being tested! MS will likely disable the ability to use ESD until it gets results.
    So, if I object to UUP initializing things for five hours, I'm a wimp eh? If I want to get to testing the meat of the OS, rather than a delivery system that doesn't work, that makes me a wimp?

    C'mon, Fafhrd, I wouldn't expect name calling from you.
      My ComputerSystem Spec
  3.    02 Feb 2017 #293
    Join Date : Oct 2014
    Posts : 17,565
    Windows 10 Insider Preview Build 16281

    Quote Originally Posted by tinmar49 View Post
    Today it has been initialising for two hours already, and I took the precaution of uninstalling Malwarebytes first.
    I gotcha beat . . . I finally gave up and used ESD to ISO after UUP had been churning around for five hours!
      My ComputerSystem Spec
  4.    02 Feb 2017 #294
    Join Date : Oct 2014
    Posts : 17,565
    Windows 10 Insider Preview Build 16281

    Quote Originally Posted by Winuser View Post
    We tested it and reported it. If MS isn't going to try and fix it why should we continue to test it. I don't care how many times we test it, UUP is not going to fix itself.
      My ComputerSystem Spec
  5.    02 Feb 2017 #295
    Join Date : Oct 2014
    Posts : 553
    ,7,8.1 10TP 10upgrade,MINT

    Maybe Wynona, but I was initialising for about 4 hours yesterday.
      My ComputerSystem Spec
  6.    02 Feb 2017 #296
    Join Date : Oct 2014
    Posts : 17,565
    Windows 10 Insider Preview Build 16281

    Quote Originally Posted by tinmar49 View Post
    Maybe Wynona, but I was initialising for about 4 hours yesterday.
    <hehehe>

    Who has whom beat in how long the silly thing initialized (My Lappy still can't update), the fact is that so far, UUP hasn't worked properly a single time since Microsoft released it.
      My ComputerSystem Spec
  7.    02 Feb 2017 #297
    Join Date : Mar 2015
    Posts : 2,339
    Win10 Pro Build 17040

    Quote Originally Posted by Fafhrd View Post
    The problem is that UUP needs a big test base, and if wimpy Insiders circumvent it, by ESD or WZOR, it ain't being tested! MS will likely disable the ability to use ESD until it gets results.
    - that's how I read it..
    - it's how the final product impacts new users..
    -*as Insiders we're always testing, so we are perhaps more prone to impatience..

    - I guess the theory is, a new user would experience the "UUP-like" delay once only..
    - thereafter,*with the platform in place, future updates will be quicker and more discrete..
      My ComputersSystem Spec
  8.    02 Feb 2017 #298
    Join Date : Jun 2014
    Posts : 5,512
    Windows 10 Pro

    Quote Originally Posted by Fafhrd View Post
    Not the point, I'm afraid, Winuser - each failure, each redownload, each re-initialize... is monitored by telemetry, (if not at your end, at theirs) and that gives MS Error reporting analytics tons of data - its not the Insiders that bother to complain "I'm peed off that it does not work second time" to feedback that make the difference, it's each attempt that works or fails that gives the developers and analysts the ammunition to improve things.

    If enough Insiders give up and take the easy way, I tell you, they will just make circumvention more difficult - and what will improve things is tryers, not quitters They can afford to let the quitters fall off the bandwagon, but those who persevere will be the first to see results.
    It is the point. What has MS done to fix this problem? From what I see, Nothing.
      My ComputerSystem Spec
  9.    02 Feb 2017 #299
    Join Date : Nov 2014
    Floyd, VA
    Posts : 1,116
    Triple Boot Windows 10 IP Build 17025/Windows Server 2016/Debian Sid

    OK Here's something interesting maybe has some relevance. After editing the registry to set the DWORD EnableUUPScan to "0" (as well as SupportsUUP) the key was DELETED. SupportsUUP is still "0". I am now preparing to update to what I hope will provide an ESD for 15025.

    I would have to say that this UUP experiment was a disservice to Insider Testing. Yeah I found an 15019 ISO but would not even post where I got it since the last time I did I got my knuckles rapped. No doubt 15025 ISO have already appeared.

    While researching UUP I entered the search term "EnableUUPScam" instead of "EnableUUPScan" and got some amusing if off-topic hits
      My ComputersSystem Spec
  10.    02 Feb 2017 #300
    Join Date : Dec 2013
    Portsmouth Hampshire
    Posts : 1,826
    Windows 10 x86 14383 Insider Pro and Core 10240

    Microsoft offer the insiders who can't stand the pace a standoff pause if they wish:
    Click image for larger version. 

Name:	2017_02_02_20_57_561.png 
Views:	2 
Size:	147.2 KB 
ID:	119582
    Why not take a sabbatical?

    Microsoft want the problem gone as much as we do.

    Why does anyone think they are being abused when they offer their services free of charge to do something hard, and for a time it doesn't get easier?

    If you want a break, take it, but don't try to break the system that you signed up to, by circumventing the processes that MS are keenest to see working smoothly and effectively.

    And don't accuse them of doing nothing, just because your pet peeve ain't fixed yet.
      My ComputersSystem Spec

 
Page 30 of 66 FirstFirst ... 20282930313240 ... LastLast


Similar Threads
Thread Forum
Insider Announcing Windows 10 Insider Preview Build 14901 for PC
UPDATE 2: 764169017733025792 UPDATE 1: 764153098935922692 763865659079925760
Windows 10 News
Insider Announcing Windows 10 Insider Preview Build 14366 & Mobile Build 14364
UPDATE: 742889757512867840 Source: Announcing Windows 10 Insider Preview Build 14366 Mobile Build 14364 | Windows Experience Blog
Windows 10 News
Insider Announcing Windows 10 Insider Preview Build 14257
695034380524216320 Source: Announcing Windows 10 Insider Preview Build 14257 | Windows Experience Blog
Windows 10 News
Insider Announcing Windows 10 Insider Preview Build 10586 for PC
UPDATE: November 9th 2015 663817978471804928 663818555217985536 662328639673864192
Windows 10 News
Insider Announcing Windows 10 Insider Preview Build 10565
UPDATE 3: Microsoft Releases PC build 10565 to Insiders in the Slow ring today. 655071954639020032 UPDATE 2: Download: https://www.tenforums.com/tutorials/9230-windows-10-iso-download.html#option3
Windows 10 News
Our Sites
Site Links
About Us
Windows 10 Forums is an independent web site and has not been authorized, sponsored, or otherwise approved by Microsoft Corporation. "Windows 10" and related materials are trademarks of Microsoft Corp.

© Designer Media Ltd
All times are GMT -5. The time now is 22:17.
Find Us
Twitter Facebook Google+ Ten Forums iOS App Ten Forums Android App



Windows 10 Forums