Windows 10: Announcing Windows 10 Insider Preview Build 15002 for PC Insider

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  1. Posts : 781
    Windows 10 and windows insider
       09 Jan 2017 #31

    Rocky said: View Post
    Yes, mine has been at 100% for about 15 minutes. Oh well.
    Mine did this for a very long time -- maybe 30 to 45 minutes, then it finally started up again and installed.
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  2.    09 Jan 2017 #32

    No ESD to be found am afraid. I looked all over and not seeing it
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  3. Posts : 8,291
    Windows 10 Professional
       09 Jan 2017 #33

    gasseratef said: View Post
    im running a 5mb connection speed, it usually takes couple of hours to download but my windows update went straight from 0 to 100% which is weird and i know it got stuck some how, was about to install 14986 and try but looks like you got the same issue, im on 14997
    Same issue, wasn't sure I was going to get it over a leak, but 'BT' folder didn't land; restarted machine, now it's landed! (fingers crossed)
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    Release + Insider Preview Home Build 16179 (VMWare)
       09 Jan 2017 #34

    Dragonfyre said: View Post
    No ESD to be found am afraid. I looked all over and not seeing it
    Unless you made the registry changes, as of 14986 and later builds, MS is serving the new builds through its new UUP process. So you won't be getting ESD if you haven't made the registry to reenable ESD. Look at the helpful tutorial Kari created specifically for this.
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  5. Posts : 8,291
    Windows 10 Professional
       09 Jan 2017 #35

    Edwin said: View Post
    Same issue, wasn't sure I was going to get it over a leak, but 'BT' folder didn't land; restarted machine, now it's landed! (fingers crossed)
    ... Panther folder's unpacked, that's a good sign...
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  6. Posts : 11,206
    Windows 10 Pro
       09 Jan 2017 #36

    Dragonfyre said: View Post
    No ESD to be found am afraid. I looked all over and not seeing it
    I'm not a friend of long quotes, but as this might benefit our members, I'll quote this post from ESD to ISO tutorial thread here in its entire length:

    Kari said: View Post
    information   Information
    As of build 14986, released to Fast Ring Insiders this week, Microsoft has changed the way upgrades will be delivered. The new method is called Unified Update Platform (UUP). More information on Microsoft blog: Introducing Unified Update Platform (UUP) - Windows Experience BlogWindows Experience Blog

    UUP downloads and delivers an upgrade as a differential upgrade. All geeks know what a differential backup means, it simply backs up only those files changed since the last full backup. The same principle applies to differential upgrade: Windows Update will only download and install those system files changed since the current installed build.

    This will make the downloaded upgrade packages smaller and will most probably also reduce the time needed for upgrade.

    Let's see the main differences in these two methods, in a very simplified way.

    ESD method:

    Windows Update downloads files for a full Windows 10 setup. This includes everything to perform a clean install of Windows or replace everything in in-place upgrade and repair install, containing all native Windows desktop and UWP apps, all system files and folders, dynamic libraries, absolutely everything. It also contains the install.esd file which can be converted to an ISO image, giving user a full Windows install media.

    When a user starts upgrade, all Windows system elements and components will be replaced. Mail app will be reinstalled, as will PowerShell and Command Prompt, Notepad and Windows Media Player, and so on, regardless if these applications have been changed (new version) since the current build which will be upgraded. All dynamic libraries will be replaced and reinstalled, all Windows components will be reinstalled.

    This of course means unnecessary downloads, file replacements and application reinstalls. A simple example: The Weather app version did not change in build 14971, compared to build 14965. In both of these builds the app version is 4.17.74.0. However, as the ESD method does a full in-place upgrade replacing / overwriting all Windows system components, Weather app will be reinstalled replacing the same version of itself.

    UUP method:

    When Windows Update finds a new build, it will check the user's current build application / dynamic library / other system file versions and download only those Windows components that have been changed. Using the above Weather app example it would not be downloaded and installed if the app version in new upgrade build is the same as that user has currently installed.

    OK, leaving Weather app out of upgrade download does not save too many bits and bytes, but if you multiply that with the number of Windows desktop and UWP apps, dynamic libraries and other Windows system components not needing an upgrade, it will become quite clear that depending on upgrade, the download size will be smaller and because there's less to overwrite also the time needed for upgrade will be reduced.

    By default UUP is enabled.

    Tip   Tip
    If having the possibility to make an ISO image and create your own install media weighs more than reduced download size, you must manually disable UUP in Windows registry.

    Both of the following DWORDs have by default value 1 (UUP enabled). You must change both values to 0 (UUP disabled) to keep getting the ESD file and full build download:

    Key: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE>SOFTWARE>Microsoft>Windows>CurrentVersion>WindowsUpdate>Orchestrator
    DWORD: EnableUUPScan

    Key: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE>SOFTWARE>Microsoft>WindowsUpdate
    DWORD: SupportsUUP

    These DWORDS must have the same value, 1 for UUP enabled, 0 for UUP disabled.

    If you have already upgraded when UUP was enabled, you do not have and can't get the ESD file. Do the above registry changes before next build upgrade to assure you will get ESD file.

    If your upgrade has been downloaded and prepared but you have not yet clicked Restart now button in Windows Update to start upgrade, you can do the following to redownload upgrade and get the ESD file:
    - Edit the registry as told above
    - Open Disk Clean-up > Clean up system files
    - Select Temporary Windows installation files, click OK:

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    - Wait until clean up is done
    - In Settings app > Windows Update, click Restart now
    - Windows will now restart for upgrade but as no upgrade files will be found, it boots back to desktop
    - Now let Windows Update to download the upgrade again, this time it will be the full upgrade and include the ESD file

    Thanks for fellow member @Bat 1 for registry tip.


    Kari
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    Release + Insider Preview Home Build 16179 (VMWare)
       09 Jan 2017 #37

    Kari said: View Post
    I'm not a friend of long quotes, but as this might benefit our members, I'll quotethis post from ESD to ISO tutorial thread here in its entire length:
    Like I mentioned, Kari's tutorial is awesome and here he is, kind enough to requote his own tutorial for our benefit. Thank you Kari!
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  8.    09 Jan 2017 #38

    Rats, downloaded just fine, I made ISO but there was error during installation, downloading again. Gonna make bootable USB in case this one doesn't work out again.
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  9. Posts : 1,582
    Windows 10 x86 14383 Insider Pro and Core 10240
       09 Jan 2017 #39

    Second chance to see UUP in action. Many cabinet files and ESDs in the \windows\SoftwareDistribution\Downloads folder, not all related to Professional - the version being upgraded - and not all EN-GB.
    The directory listing: list1.txt
    Circa 2.33GB download (x86) This appears to all intents and purposes to be a multipart ESD, similar to .swm multipart .wim files:
    Main Object of interest is 09/01/2017 18:58 327,430,102 Professional_en-gb.esd
    In 7-Zip this may be expanded to:
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    With the Wim index info file [1].xml: [1].xml.txt indicating the 3 images as being:

    1) Windows Setup Media

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    2) Windows PE/Windows Recovery Environment

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    3) Windows Professional EN_GB /Windows 10 Pro Insider Preview

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    Altogether a lot larger than the ~327MB ESD file on disk
    This seems to be a condensation of several of the downloaded ESD files, in a similar fashion to a multipart .SWM
    WindowsSetupBox.exe seems to have been restyled as WindowsUpgradeBox.exe in this UUP iteration.
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  10.    09 Jan 2017 #40

    Some particularly interesting change.s to existing issues buried in that list

    1) HOME users can extend active hours to 18 now

    2) Metered connection even for ethernet

    3) Ability to stop forced driver updates (except Home)
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