Windows 10: Upcoming changes to Windows 10 Insider Preview builds [UPDATED 6/22] Insider

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    Windows 10 Insider Preview
       22 Jun 2015 #31

    Gary said: View Post
    But you still will be able to use Windows 8.xx I think.
    I think, too, Gary.
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  2.    22 Jun 2015 #32

    Guess I'll continue to dual boot with 7 and insider until they get major bugs stomped out, or a year passes, or the insider program is shut down, whichever comes first then I'll upgrade from 7.
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    Windows 10 Insider Preview
       22 Jun 2015 #33

    Burgurne said: View Post
    <citat>
    If your system upgraded from a Genuine Windows 7 or Windows 8.1 license it will remain activated, but if not, you will be required to roll back to your previous OS version or acquire a new Windows 10 license.
    </citat>

    Does that mean, that we will NOT be able to do a clean install of our free Windows 10? As I read it, there has to be a Windows 7/8.1 installation (activated, of course), and then do the upgrade to windows 10.


    I want windows 10 _clean installed_ as upgrades never are as clean as a "clean install" (hence the name, I guess)
    <Stepping off the deep end here>

    What I think will happen is that first we have to accept an upgrade (unless we upgraded our Win 7 or 8.1 systems to Win 10 at the beginning) to Windows 7 or 8.1. After that, we can use the ISO to reinstall Windows 10 as a clean install. And, yes, I hope that's not the way we have to do it, but it seems to be what we're being told. That is if I'm reading my tea leaves correctly.
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  4.    22 Jun 2015 #34

    DavidY said: View Post
    I think you need to upgrade from 7 or 8.x to 10, let the machine activate, and then you can clean install.

    From the Windows 10 FAQ:
    That sounds like you're right. But if I first have to upgrade, then how does the new clean-install know that I have allready made the upgrade? Do we get a new Windows 10 key to use AFTER we have upgraded from a genuie windows 7/8.1?

    Senarie: Running windows 8.1. Upgrades to windows 10. Run Windows 10 for a week. Buy a SSD. Take out the old HDD, and mount the SSD. Now clean install windows 10 on the new SSD.
    Question: How does the new installed Windows 10 "know", that I have upgrated from windows 8.1 at an earlier state??
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    64-bit 10240 10 Pro
       22 Jun 2015 #35

    Mystere said: View Post
    Oh, come on. Really? They also didn't say what happens if you uninstall during a full moon. How many different ways can you analyze this?

    It seems clear to me. *ANY TIME* after July 29th, if you opt out of Insider builds, you will need a valid license. Either because you upgraded during the first year, or because you bought it. If you don't have a valid license, you need to acquire one or go back to your old OS. It's really that simple.
    I believe this as well but if you opt out of the TP , you still will be able to use Windows 7 or Wind 8.XX. Right?
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  6.    22 Jun 2015 #36

    I'll get new keys through MSDN anyway, so it doesn't really matter to me if I do the free upgrade or not. I likely will on at least one PC just to see how the whole process works etc. It makes sense to me what they did. If you stay an insider your RTM build comes as just another preview build with a fixed expiry date like any other preview build. Opt out and you have to install another OS on that PC when your Preview expires. If you qualify for the free upgrade, you can then do that if you want. Then your RTM build becomes a fully licensed Windows 10 install. I have a PC that I upgraded to the TP from Windows 7. It's 10 Pro so I think that's the one I'm going to do the free upgrade on to a full version. My laptop is running 8.1 Pro activated with my TechNet 8.0 Pro key. I may try that one too just to see what happens. It also has an embedded OEM key for 8.0 Core. It has the GWX icon saying its good to go. For me its more for testing purposes than getting a free upgrade to 10. I want to see the upgrade process first hand so I can answer questions accurately.
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    Windows 10 Insider Preview
       22 Jun 2015 #37

    Gary said: View Post
    I am now totally confused. Gabe Aul should go work for Apple.
    Thanks for the laugh, Gary!
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  8.    22 Jun 2015 #38

    Oh, well, at least I know where I stand now i.e. no freebie for wife's Vista!! Had my hopes raised there for a short while.

    Think I will buy a used PC with Win 7 Pro on it as it would be cheaper than buying win 10 on its own. But the downside is the upgrade to win 10 would be OEM. Hmmmmm. Decisions, decisions.

    Maybe, like Bunny, I just cough up for the retail version in August and move on.
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    Windows 10 Insider Preview
       22 Jun 2015 #39

    Nobody said: View Post
    So if I want to continue Windows Insider, no need to do anything as long as Microsoft continues to Insider program.
    And if I want the "final" version, I stop using Insider. and I use my Windows 7 retail lisence to activate final veriosn. Right ?
    Yes, Nobody. However, just be sure to upgrade 7 to 10 before July 28, 2016.
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    64-bit 10240 10 Pro
       22 Jun 2015 #40

    Everyone needs a laugh and I still am not convinced of anything. Can I keep Win 7 and Drop out of the TP after the 29th.?
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