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  1.    23 Jun 2015 #171
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mystere View Post
    No, when you upgrade a Starter or Home in the Insider Preview, you get a copy of Windows 10 Core, not Pro. Lots of people have found this out the hard way already.

    When I upgraded as a test one of the builds, don't know which build, I think it is was 10130 but I am not sure. According to system properties showed is windows 10 pro preview not windows 10 home preview according to system information and the watermark. I wonder if 10 thinks I had a ultimate/pro version because of the type key my system has.


    I would be wiling to test it out, I haven't deleted everything of 10 yet.
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  2.    23 Jun 2015 #172
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    Quote Originally Posted by groze View Post
    When I upgraded as a test one of the builds, don't know which build, I think it is was 10130 but I am not sure. According to system properties showed is windows 10 pro preview not windows 10 home preview according to system information and the watermark. I wonder if 10 thinks I had a ultimate/pro version because of the type key my system has.

    I would be wiling to test it out, I haven't deleted everything of 10 yet.
    You upgraded via Windows update? Or via ISO? Did you run the setup within windows, or from booting the ISO?
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  3.    23 Jun 2015 #173
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    Windows 10 Insider Preview Build 16281

    Quote Originally Posted by sgage View Post
    Oh good. We have so many overlapping messages flying around here it's easy to lose the thread...
    That's why I pretty much always quote. In Eight Forums, we were able to quote the whole thing, which could get rather lengthy, but at least we had the context. Now it's not so easily understood.
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  4.    23 Jun 2015 #174
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    Quote Originally Posted by groze View Post
    When I upgraded as a test one of the builds, don't know which build, I think it is was 10130 but I am not sure. According to system properties showed is windows 10 pro preview not windows 10 home preview according to system information and the watermark. I wonder if 10 thinks I had a ultimate/pro version because of the type key my system has.


    I would be wiling to test it out, I haven't deleted everything of 10 yet.
    Quote Originally Posted by Mystere View Post
    You upgraded via Windows update? Or via ISO?
    Iso,

    I used Windows7-USB-DVD-Download-Tool-Installer-en-US to create the flash drive install. Again I am not sure if it was 10130 or the previous build that did this. If 10130 is doing this. All of Dell computers that have this type of key may be upgrade knowingly and unknowingly to windows 10 pro rtm. I made no modification to the flash drive.
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  5.    23 Jun 2015 #175
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    Windows 10 Insider Preview Build 16281

    Quote Originally Posted by alphanumeric View Post
    Yes, but how do you give feedback on features you haven't seen yet? Insiders on the fast ring are going to see proposed changes that you may never see in the full Windows 10. If enough negative feedback gets received on something they may can it before its officially released. Or positive feedback may fast track a feature to the rest of us.
    Alpha, in Office 365, each of the programs has a cute little Smiley Icon at the top; there's one at the top of IE and probably one at the top of Microsoft Edge. Maybe even Cortana. There's one at the top of Xbox, and most likely the Office for Windows 10 apps will have it as well. Those smiley icons are for feedback. Click/tap on one and you get "Send a Smile", "Send a Frown". Click/tap on one or the other and a feedback page opens. As we all know, no matter how hard Microsoft tries, bugs get through to RTMs; thus, the Smiley Feedback Icons are there so that we can let Microsoft know how we feel about this or that, or what's wrong with this or that.

    You are right though, that once Windows 10 RTMs, those folks who have left the Windows Insider Program will no longer have access to the same feedback that we'll have.
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  6.    23 Jun 2015 #176
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    Windows 10 Insider Preview Build 16281

    Quote Originally Posted by groze View Post
    <Snip>.

    I got to thinking about this, I think the insider program should change a lot. I really think this is the wrong way to do it after the release of windows 10. I don't think they would have enough testers though if Microsoft went with my idea, shown below. Just because a tech doesn't like the feature, doesn't mean a consumer won't.
    The Insider Program is changing. A lot! Note the last two sentences I've bolded and turned purple.

    Microsoft Account notifications
    If you don’t have your Microsoft Account (MSA) connected to your PC, starting in the next build you’ll start seeing notifications asking you to do so. You’ll need to connect the MSA that you registered for the Windows Insider Program with (and accepted the “Microsoft Windows Insider Program Agreement”) in order to continue receiving new Windows 10 Insider Preview builds (both Fast and Slow rings) from Windows Update. If you already have your MSA connected to your account on your PC, then you’re all set. We’re introducing new infrastructure in Windows Update to help us deliver new builds more effectively to Windows Insiders, and ensure that we’re flighting builds to people who have registered and opted in to the program. Connecting your MSA also allows seamless access to Windows Insider-only functionality in the Windows Feedback app and Insider Hub too.
    Quote Originally Posted by groze View Post
    Consumer or Businesses would be able to choose from two rings
    Since businesses aren't included in the free Windows 10 upgrade offer, I'm not sure they even belong in this part of the Windows 10 Technical Preview. They are already in separate programs, such as TAP and Corporate, etc. There are more that I'm not aware of.

    Quote Originally Posted by groze View Post
    Fast Ring-less stable system, less privacy, new features added sooner. You would need Microsoft Account for that & you would be part of the insider program

    Slow Ring-more stable system. more privacy, new features won't be added sooner and you wouldn't need a Microsoft Account & you would not be part of the insider program
    Starting speculation mode now . . .

    A large percentage of Windows Insiders who joined (for whatever reason) will get their free upgrade to Windows 10 and leave the program. A much smaller percentage of Windows Insiders will choose to remain in the program.

    A large number of those who remain in the Windows Insider Program will be more technically inclined than those who left the program. They're more experienced with beta testing. A lesser number of those who remain within the program will be less technically inclined, but have found out that beta testing is fun. Or they just want to learn more. Or any of a hundred other reasons to stay.

    No matter why they stay, Microsoft will be more comfortable with delivering new builds to everyone at the same time; thus, the Fast and Slow Rings will no longer be needed.

    Turning off speculation mode now . . .

    As shown above, Microsoft already have their next steps in place and all we have to do is follow their lead.
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  7.    23 Jun 2015 #177
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    The intellect just keeps getting dizzier. . .my poor head is just about ready to go "POP". . . . never really thought it was as hard as some folks find it. . .
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  8.    23 Jun 2015 #178
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    Just did a test. Dell home system using 10130 iso upgraded to Windows 10 pro insider pro preview. Some stuff was blanked out.


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    As for the other post, I meant small businesses not big businesses.
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  9.    24 Jun 2015 #179
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    W10 Pro + W10 Preview

    So much conjecture, yet in plain English, taken from the original text.

    ~
    The crux of it is this:


    • Do you want to continue as a Windows Insider and keep getting preview builds after 7/29?
    • Or do you want to upgrade your Genuine Windows 7 or Windows 8.1 system that has been getting Windows 10 Insider Preview builds to the 7/29 release and stop being an Insider?



    Now it could not be more explicit than this.
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  10.    24 Jun 2015 #180
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lee View Post
    The intellect just keeps getting dizzier. . .my poor head is just about ready to go "POP". . . . never really thought it was as hard as some folks find it. . .
    Think about non English speakers, like me when they read these comments
    For me, this is a clear, July 29 Windows 10. Here i come. Using my Windows 7 retail lisence.
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