Windows 10: Itís (Past) Time to Close That Yahoo Account

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  1. dencal's Avatar
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       01 Jan 2017 #71

    Cliff S said: View Post
    If you need it typed out,the main point is:

    Yahoo kept quiet about so many of their customers accounts being stolen/breached for three or four years, they also are allowing the US government to spy on everyone that has a Yahoo account, where all others at least make an attempt to fight back in court against giving the government a back door.
    They have/should have lost the trust of the user, by keeping silent about this.
    Governments around the world have been spying on the internet since the concept came into being.
    They just don't advertise it. You would have to be very naÔve to believe otherwise.

    Here in the UK its a well known fact GCHQ have been doing it for years, so much so that after some complaints by the general public, from today January 1st 2017 a snoopers law takes effect, having been passed in parliament, allowing them freedom to spy on whatever they wish.

    The real reason this spying is needed is to safeguard its citizens....there are some very unsavoury people in this world who wish to cause real harm to innocent people and would go to any length to fulfil their objectives.

    Personally I could not care less from a privacy point of view as I have nothing to hide, besides better safe than sorry mourning the dead and crippled.

    Thank goodness GCHQ and our security services have been efficient at monitoring, as they have already foiled numerous planned murderous attacks in the UK.
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       01 Jan 2017 #72

    dencal said: View Post
    How can anyone be sure this is not endemic.....some being more honest than others?
    Agreed.

    Spam could be caused by other people's email accounts being accessed/hacked.

    Some sort of "bot" read my Yahoo contact list back in 2008 or 2009.
    It sent out 1 spam email to all of the addresses in the list.
    When it happened a second time (some months later) I deleted the contact list and it never happened again.

    If the list had been transferred to a person, I would've expected the spam to continue unabated.

    The same thing happened to my other account in 2012 or 2013.
    I immediately deleted the address list in that account and it hasn't happened since.

    On both occasions, scans by multiple different AM/AV programs indicated that there was no malware on my PC.

    Over the years, I have also received spam that:
    • Indicated it was sent by me to me
    • Did not have my email address in it anywhere


    dencal said: View Post
    The real reason this spying is needed is to safeguard its citizens....there are some very unsavoury people in this world who wish to cause real harm to innocent people and would go to any length to fulfil their objectives.

    Personally I could not care less from a privacy point of view as I have nothing to hide, besides better safe than sorry mourning the dead and crippled.

    Thank goodness GCHQ and our security services have been efficient at monitoring, as they have already foiled numerous planned murderous attacks in the UK.
    "Protecting Citizens" is a claim/justification that politicians spout.
    Since there is no proper independent oversight/verification of claims made by intelligence agencies/politicians, we can't know what is actually going on.

    Here in Australia, the (Conservative) Attorney General is busy reversing the "onus of proof" (for ordinary citizens, not businesses or politicians) on as many laws as possible, basically claiming that criminals/terrorist are too smart for the authorities.

    Based on that justification, I wonder how the police were able to solve any crimes before the arrival of the Internet.

    He just introduced a law, designed to silence critics and journalists, that requires the accused to prove that government information stored on their computers was not placed there by the owner.
    Even "better", because any time this law is used the Government will claim that it is related to "National Security", so the accused won't even be allowed to see the evidence against them and therefore they won't be able to dispute/refute it.

    If you believe "better safe than sorry" justifies any and all dubious behaviour by the authorities, you should be lobbying for the introduction of permanent 24/7 martial law.

    What could be safer than never being able to leave home without a military escort?
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  3.    01 Jan 2017 #73

    dencal said: View Post
    All this nonsense Yahoo scare story.....out of the thousands of companies that have been hacked including Governments, security services, banks to name just a few.....don't tell me that all their clients have removed their accounts.....do me a favour, absolutely not.
    I personally still retain my Yahoo e-mail account along with others......simple answer....change Password.
    Exactly. I'm just laughing at all those trying to shut down their Yahoo accounts like headless chicken....
    Do these people even know where their security settings are, that Yahoo too has 2-step verification, and how they can set up individual passwords for less secure apps that don't allow 2-step verification?

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  4.    02 Jan 2017 #74

    Trust_No1 said: View Post
    I suspect I have had other accounts hacked and just haven't know about it.

    The only account I ever had hacked was my Microsoft account (I know of). They ended up purchasing nearly $10,000.00 worth of equipment from the Microsoft Store.. Caught it immediately and all was reversed (not very easily). Changed passwords. In hopes nothing else happens. This was only about 7 months ago.



    Agreed, it is almost useless. Plus, I think yahoo said, there has been no known malicious use of the information reported.
    Now I understand the origin of your nic !
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  5.    02 Jan 2017 #75

    Have switched to gmail long time ago, but i do like the concept of disposable email addresses of yahoo. Useful to fight spam.
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  6.    02 Jan 2017 #76

    MartinO said: View Post
    Do these people even know ... that Yahoo too has 2-step verification, and how they can set up individual passwords for less secure apps that don't allow 2-step verification?
    Sadly for some of us who have email accounts provided indirectly by Yahoo (the email address isn't "xyz@yahoo.com", but the email account is still managed on Yahoo's servers and reputedly within scope of the hack) 2-step verification isn't an available option.
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  7.    02 Jan 2017 #77

    DavidY, not sure I understand this. Can you give an example? And is this a situation that would never occur with i.e. Gmail?
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       02 Jan 2017 #78

    DavidY said: View Post
    Sadly for some of us who have email accounts provided indirectly by Yahoo (the email address isn't "xyz@yahoo.com", but the email account is still managed on Yahoo's servers and reputedly within scope of the hack) 2-step verification isn't an available option.
    I don't know who your intermediary is but if they do not do two step verification I would be astonished.
    Sky using Yahoo certainly insist on it.....mine being ********@sky.com
    You should check settings.
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  9.    02 Jan 2017 #79

    dencal said: View Post
    I don't know who your intermediary is but if they do not do two step verification I would be astonished.
    Sky using Yahoo certainly insist on it.....mine being ********@sky.com
    You should check settings.
    It's BT. (aka British Telecom).

    I had a look but can't find a setting in my settings.

    Looking on the BT forums, posts from people who seem to be experts state that you can't get 2-step verification on BT Yahoo accounts - eg. on this thread.
    BT's poor email security and lack of 2 step verifi... - BTCare Community Forums

    It's probably complicated because BT announced they would migrate everyone's email accounts away from Yahoo and onto another supplier. This was over 2 years ago and although some people got migrated, they halted the migration for some reason that's not clear to me.
    But perhaps Yahoo aren't too bothered about rolling out improvements (such as 2-step authentication) as BT have already said they intended to leave them at some point, albeit they haven't done it very well so far.
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       02 Jan 2017 #80

    David.
    How do you open your e-mail.....do you open BT webpage, click on link "e-mail", then sign in using BT e-mail address and password.

    If so then you must have two step registration with BT.....if so blame BT for security lapse.

    Yahoo have no idea what your BT password is or any security questions you made with BT in opening an account.
    It is not you opening Yahoo, it is BT using your logging in details.

    BT are solely responsible for any security if wording stated after @****** has any connection to any British Telecom affiliates.
    Yahoo are just a service used by BT to deliver.
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