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  1. Joined : Oct 2014
    Posts : 135
    Windows 10 64-bits
       22 Jun 2015 #11

    Microsoft is a for profit company, just to state the obvious...

    They won't give away hundreds of millions, or more, without having a way to recover that money. MS started to integrate Bing searches in Windows 8.x that is nothing more than tracking end users in the OS. While one could disable this integration in Windows 8.x, in Windows 10 it's not an option. As the matter of fact, Cortana needs an MS account just to work, not to mention that detecting location needs to be enabled as well. Who needs tracking script when MS can have people jump on the "free" Windows 10? Can you imagine the advertisement income MS will have from Windows 10?

    I for one will keep both Windows 7 and 8.1, I won't quote what my wife said when the free Windows 10 update popped up...

    Disclaimer: Microsoft is just joining Google and Apple for advertising in the OS, they've been doing it for long time. With MS market share, they'll be able to unset Google as the top company to advertise with. Yeah, that couple of millions seems like a smart investment....
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  2.    22 Jun 2015 #12

    BunnyJ said: View Post
    Either way I'm all in on Win10. So far I think it's much better than WIn7 and it's the equal of Win8.1. And given that the future is with WIn10 I don't see the reason not to upgrade.
    I agree, I made up my mind long before the latest news came out to update. Regardless of the direction, I expected I would have to use my Win 8 key to legally run Win 10. I'm just looking for a way to do a clean install, then I'm good.
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  3. Joined : Jun 2015
    Posts : 2
    windows 8.1
       22 Jun 2015 #13

    BunnyJ said: View Post
    Either way I'm all in on Win10. So far I think it's much better than WIn7 and it's the equal of Win8.1. And given that the future is with WIn10 I don't see the reason not to upgrade.
    i dont think its the equal of windows 8.1. to me, it looks like its advanced, atleast the screens do. I had some problems with 8.1 and i hope that the windows 10 is something less problematic. it looks like it is.
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  4. Joined : Jan 2014
    Oak Ridge TN, USA
    Posts : 23,934
    Windows 10 Pro x64
       22 Jun 2015 #14

    hoehhohhoe said: View Post
    i dont think its the equal of windows 8.1. to me, it looks like its advanced, atleast the screens do. I had some problems with 8.1 and i hope that the windows 10 is something less problematic. it looks like it is.
    Keep in mind that Win8.1 has had time to develop and WIn10 is not officially out yet., Given that I think that Win10 is very close to what Win8.1 is now.
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  5. Joined : Oct 2013
    Standish, Lancashire
    Posts : 4,778
    Windows 10 Pro x64
       22 Jun 2015 #15

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  6. Joined : Oct 2013
    Wolves, England
    Posts : 1,634
    W7 Pro x64 | W10 IP x64 | Linux Mint VM
       22 Jun 2015 #16

    BunnyJ said: View Post
    So far I think it's much better than WIn7 and it's the equal of Win8.1.
    7 still is miles ahead of 8.1. I'll be dual booting between 7 and 10, both are great operating systems. 8.1 was a massive turd without Start8.
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  7. Joined : Oct 2013
    North West Indianapolis, Indiana
    Posts : 446
    Windows 7 Ultimate 64 Bit and VM
       22 Jun 2015 #17

    Boozad said: View Post
    7 still is miles ahead of 8.1. I'll be dual booting between 7 and 10, both are great operating systems. 8.1 was a massive turd without Start8.
    And so far Windows 10 is a polished turd. Maybe they have run out of Brasso?Click image for larger version. 

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  8. Joined : Oct 2014
    Polk County Texas USA
    Posts : 11,675
    Windows 10 Insider Preview
       22 Jun 2015 #18

    z3r010 said: View Post
    Love it! If you'd like it hand delivered, just say the word and front the air fare and I'm on my way. I'll even provide the daisy.
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  9. Joined : Nov 2013
    Chicagoland
    Posts : 20,763
    Tower: W8.1; Laptop: W10 Pro build 10586; Windows Phone 8
       22 Jun 2015 #19

    First and foremost > Buyers beware > Absolutely nothing in life is free. If one thinks it's free, then one got tricked into thinking it's free. In this case it may cost a prior Windows OS key.

    Cr00zng said: View Post
    Microsoft is a for profit company, just to state the obvious...
    Yes, obviously. A rather stable, ever expanding company through the years at that. Keyword here is "expanding". Every organism in the world needs to keep growing or rejuvenating, otherwise it dies and withers away. That includes cells, you, me, companies, relationships, etc.

    Probably one of the most important departments of any company is marketing, especially research of future markets. In other words, direction in developing products that sell for profit. Don't expand or perpetually perfect a product? Then die off.

    They won't give away hundreds of millions, or more, without having a way to recover that money. MS started to integrate Bing searches in Windows 8.x that is nothing more than tracking end users in the OS. While one could disable this integration in Windows 8.x, in Windows 10 it's not an option. As the matter of fact, Cortana needs an MS account just to work, not to mention that detecting location needs to be enabled as well. Who needs tracking script when MS can have people jump on the "free" Windows 10? Can you imagine the advertisement income MS will have from Windows 10?
    Perhaps the on/off of features aren't included until final release. Are they included in a local account also? Not sure for I don't use one. I'd rather use the free services MS offers via MS account, which the advertising supports. This forum site and many other sites might not exist if it were not for advertising. Even the internet may not exist as we know it.

    I can understand why some would want to remain anonymous. That should always remain a choice. Not sure, but I would think it may depend on the OS edition of what integrated features can or cannot be off or on, depending on default. Pro or Enterprise editions in the past have more choice and more features. I should think that at least in the Enterprise edition IT or anyone would have the choice to turn off features you speak of. I feel it would be a great distraction in a business office setting.

    Otherwise personally I'm not understanding the hullabaloo. We see advertising everywhere. Web pages, magazine/newspapers, billboards, store windows, junk mail, etc. At least I can have it tailored or personalized for my interests via MS account.

    I for one will keep both Windows 7 and 8.1, I won't quote what my wife said when the free Windows 10 update popped up...
    That's one choice > Don't use the product just as any other product you or others may not like. There are usually always choices in a free enterprise capitalistic system.

    If I'm correct on the Windows 10 editions' features, then there's another choice one may have, but I would research before making a decision.

    Disclaimer: Microsoft is just joining Google and Apple for advertising in the OS, they've been doing it for long time. With MS market share, they'll be able to unset Google as the top company to advertise with. Yeah, that couple of millions seems like a smart investment....
    Is that your own quote or someone else's?

    It seems to me the competition created the market tactic in which the general population choose/chose to use. Google being one and the most popular. Made $billions on advertising. That means more people use Google search engine rather than the "evil Bing" MS created. Yeah, that evil Bing > People may get a free OS due to it along with its evil companion Cortana.

    Will the general population or "commoners" know of these features and/or how to turn them off with the edition they choose? Probably not since they'll most likely get the Home edition (if there is one), but I think they could care less. They already use them via the competition, just not integrated. After all, they're just blind sheep being lead astray into that evil system called Capitalism.

    Disclaimer:
    I'm not affiliated with any technology company nor here to promote their products. Just a regular computerized-devices-and/or-technological-services user stating my own opinion. Please ignore and/or reject my viewpoint if need be.
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  10. Joined : Oct 2014
    Posts : 1,541
    W7 32 bit, Linux Mint Xfce 18 64 bit
       22 Jun 2015 #20

    @HippsieGypsie


    Here is my idea as I mentioned in another thread. I modified it a little.

    Give a free home retail version of 10 for a 365 day sign-up period (Not pro, not enterprise) to anyone who wants it. Then just mail them the disk/flash drive (Saves server load). Businesses would use pro not home. They give students free version of windows pro.

    The insiders will still be able to get rtm and newer builds of home or pro depending on which one they want to test and of course they will be activated if associated with a Microsoft account.

    Of course the current upgrade scheme for pro/ultimate/student would still work with the home/starter version taken out of the mix. Since anyone could sign-up for a home disk/flash drive to be mailed. You would be able to upgrade or do a clean install from this disk/flash drive.
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