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  1. Joined : Dec 2013
    Sydney, Nova Scotia, Canada
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    Windows 10 IoT
       23 Jun 2015 #281

    As far as I know Microsoft has said you "need" a valid Windows 7 or 8.1 License to get the free upgrade. I haven't seen them say you actually give up that license, or that its consumed in the process. It's been "reported" that that will happen, and that's been repeated here numerous times. Doesn't mean its true though. Some seem to think if something is repeated often enough it must be fact. I'll believe it when I see it.
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  2. Joined : Jan 2014
    Oak Ridge TN, USA
    Posts : 23,939
    Windows 10 Pro x64
       23 Jun 2015 #282

    alphanumeric said: View Post
    As far as I know Microsoft has said you "need" a valid Windows 7 or 8.1 License to get the free upgrade. I haven't seen them say you actually give up that license, or that its consumed in the process. It's been "reported" that that will happen, and that's been repeated here numerous times. Doesn't mean its true though. Some seem to think if something is repeated often enough it must be fact. I'll believe it when I see it.
    I think of this as a key transfer. You'll use the same key for both Win10/Win8.1 or Win10/Win7. Both OS's will be able to use the same key.

    Jeff
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  3. Joined : Dec 2013
    Sydney, Nova Scotia, Canada
    Posts : 8,228
    Windows 10 IoT
       23 Jun 2015 #283

    BunnyJ said: View Post
    I think of this as a key transfer. You'll use the same key for both Win10/Win8.1 or Win10/Win7. Both OS's will be able to use the same key.

    Jeff
    I've done two upgrade installs, one from Windows 7 and one from Windows 8.1. Each time Windows 10 got a new different key tied to it. showkey showed the original key and a different key being used by Windows 10.
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  4. Joined : Jan 2014
    Oak Ridge TN, USA
    Posts : 23,939
    Windows 10 Pro x64
       23 Jun 2015 #284

    alphanumeric said: View Post
    I've done two upgrade installs, one from Windows 7 and one from Windows 8.1. Each time Windows 10 got a new different key tied to it. showkey showed the original key and a different key being used by Windows 10.
    I was referring to the final release not the preview.
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  5. Joined : Oct 2014
    Posts : 1,542
    W7 32 bit, Linux Mint Xfce 18 64 bit
       23 Jun 2015 #285

    alphanumeric said: View Post
    I've done two upgrade installs, one from Windows 7 and one from Windows 8.1. Each time Windows 10 got a new different key tied to it. showkey showed the original key and a different key being used by Windows 10.
    Just curious have you tried the leak build and does it do the same thing?
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  6. Joined : Oct 2014
    Arnold, MD
    Posts : 17,467
    Triple Boot 10 Pro & 10 Insider Pro & 8.1 Pro
       23 Jun 2015 #286

    My understanding, from many posts ago, is that MS cannot alter the embedded UEFI key. Hence, MS supplied 10 key will activate RTM and OEM key will remain in Bios. Seems to imply 10 stands alone with new validated key from MS and OEM key valid for OEM OS-whatever. just IMO.
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  7. Joined : Oct 2014
    Arnold, MD
    Posts : 17,467
    Triple Boot 10 Pro & 10 Insider Pro & 8.1 Pro
       23 Jun 2015 #287

    groze said: View Post
    Just curious have you tried the leak build and does it do the same thing?
    yes, and yes.


    As a matter of fact, I built a "Windows-to-go" on a thumb from 10174, entered the key that was floating around, and all was fine. Pulled the the thumb and booted back into 8.1, then 10.
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  8. Joined : Dec 2013
    Sydney, Nova Scotia, Canada
    Posts : 8,228
    Windows 10 IoT
       23 Jun 2015 #288

    BunnyJ said: View Post
    I was referring to the final release not the preview.
    Ok, but I'm going to update to the RTM from the Preview. I already upgraded from a qualifying OS to the Preview. If Windows 10 is going to use my old 7 or 8.1 key why did I get new ones on the upgrade? See what I'm saying?
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  9. Joined : Mar 2015
    Stockport UK
    Posts : 1,231
    Wndows 10 x64 Home
       23 Jun 2015 #289

    f14tomcat said: View Post
    My understanding, from many posts ago, is that MS cannot alter the embedded UEFI key. Hence, MS supplied 10 key will activate RTM and OEM key will remain in Bios. Seems to imply 10 stands alone with new validated key from MS and OEM key valid for OEM OS-whatever. just IMO.
    So what will happen if I have a retail Win 7 dvd not an OEM one. I've changed most every bit of hardware in my PC since I built it and never had to reactivate it over the phone.
    Guess it will be interesting to see what happens with Windows 10.
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  10. Joined : Jan 2014
    Oak Ridge TN, USA
    Posts : 23,939
    Windows 10 Pro x64
       23 Jun 2015 #290

    alphanumeric said: View Post
    Ok, but I'm going to update to the RTM from the Preview. I already upgraded from a qualifying OS to the Preview. If Windows 10 is going to use my old 7 or 8.1 key why did I get new ones on the upgrade? See what I'm saying?
    I see.. My plan is to go from Win8.1 to Win10 so I suspect they will use my existing Win8.1 key. But time will tell on what really occurs.
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