Windows 10: Upcoming changes to Windows 10 Insider Preview builds Insider

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  1.    21 Jun 2015 #201

    groze said: View Post
    So Gabe doesn't have the authorization to give insider a free rtm if they leave the program but can still release the rtm to insiders as a regular build and it will be activated as normal.
    Maybe. Another way to read that is that what the license *IS* is different from what the software *allows*.
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       21 Jun 2015 #202

    Wynona said: View Post
    Of course, well provide you an option to leave the program and stay on the final build if you choose:
    The editors must have missed that sentence

    The communications from MS re: RTM & Insiders Program is just a mess. I expect that nothing much will change in the end.

    The one year off for a free upgrade to win10 for a qualifying OS will be the defacto standard (it might be extended but one year seems to be more than fair)

    The Insider program will be as it always has been ... you install a base and it gets updated as development releases new versions to test. Of course the RTM release is part of that testing, but a month later, your machine might be on 10.1.034 (whatever the versioning makes the release).

    Your standard install won't get the development releases, it will only get standard updates.

    But .... the purple sentence only adds more speculation......


    Time will tell

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       21 Jun 2015 #203

    Slartybart said: View Post
    The editors must have missed that sentence

    The communications from MS re: RTM & Insiders Program is just a mess. I expect that nothing much will change in the end.

    The one year off for a free upgrade to win10 for a qualifying OS will be the defacto standard (it might be extended but one year seems to be more than fair)

    The Insider program will be as it always has been ... you install a base and it gets updated as development releases new versions to test. Of course the RTM release is part of that testing, but a month later, your machine might be on 10.1.034 (whatever the versioning makes the release).

    Your standard install won't get the development releases, it will only get standard updates.

    But .... the purple sentence only adds more speculation......


    Time will tell

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    Only reporting what I see, Bill. Regardless, I have enough copies of Windows 7 and 8 to cover all the computers I have running now, plus a couple more if I want to run those too. What's good is only two of those are OEM and I've been putting off installing the Retail Pro version of Windows 8.1 on those.

    And I think you're right, they missed that sentence. However, it won't make a whole lot of difference to me one way or the other, since I intend to continue testing Windows 10 for the foreseeable future.

    What really bothers me the most, though, is that there are those out there with Vista and back who got their hopes up only to have them squashed. To me, that's just not fair.
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       21 Jun 2015 #205

    groze When I read the first link, a riddle came to mind:

    What does Microsoft and the Oracle of Delphi have in common?


    Interpretation gymnastics are virtually required when parsing Microsoft's statements. Microsoft chooses its words carefully, and when it does disclose information, often does so in parcels that are by turns opaque, ambiguous and confusing to customers. That frequently forces it to retract or modify earlier comments.
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       21 Jun 2015 #206

    Mystere said: View Post
    Those guys don't know crap. They have the same information we have, and they're just giving their own interpretations. You'll get a different answer from a different "tech", i'm certain. These are front-line script-monkeys. They only know what someone has written a script for them to answer, any other answer they give they pull from their nether regions.
    Mystere said: View Post
    You are misinterpreting events. It's not that Microsoft can't make up its mind at all. MS knows exactly how they're going to handle this. The problem is that the twitter information tends to come from developers, and not the lawyers, and the developers don't think about all the legal stuff, so what they say is how THEY see it.

    This is one reason why Microsoft has traditionally not let developers talk on the subject of license terms.
    I'm just going to find out how it is really going to work on the 29th like everyone else. It is immaterial to me. I'll either get it free, with or without an upgrade from 7-8.1 or I won't.
    I also stay with the insider program, or I won't. Not going to fret about it. It'll happen the way it happens.
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  7.    21 Jun 2015 #207

    Cliff S said: View Post
    groze When I read the first link, a riddle came to mind:

    What does Microsoft and the Oracle of Delphi have in common?
    Anders Hjeilsberg!

    Sorry, bad developer joke.... If you don't get it, you probably won't care...
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       21 Jun 2015 #208

    Cliff S said: View Post
    groze When I read the first link, a riddle came to mind:

    What does Microsoft and the Oracle of Delphi have in common?






    Now, it looks like it back to windows 7 & Xubuntu for me. I have a feeling with the next build release Microsoft works 7.0 won't work on the next build with I.E. being removed. Right now it worked on 10130 the 64 bit version but not the 32 bit install of windows 10.


    I could tell from the article, windows beta publisher is not to happy about this change either.


    I don't think Gabe answering any tweets either.
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  9.    21 Jun 2015 #209

    rvbfan said: View Post
    I'm just going to find out how it is really going to work on the 29th like everyone else. It is immaterial to me. I'll either get it free, with or without an upgrade from 7-8.1 or I won't.
    I also stay with the insider program, or I won't. Not going to fret about it. It'll happen the way it happens.
    Very true! But it does give us something to chat about while we wait for July 29th.
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       21 Jun 2015 #210

    Mystere said: View Post
    Anders Hjeilsberg!

    Sorry, bad developer joke.... If you don't get it, you probably won't care...
    The Chief architect of Delphi, a RAD tool for Windows(I just looked it up)
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