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  1. Joined : Aug 2014
    Australia, Adelaide
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    W7 Ultimate SP1 (64 bit), LM 18.1 MATE (64 bit), W10IP VM, W10 Home
       20 Jun 2015 #91

    Isn't that only true for those who are using Online Accounts?
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  2. Joined : Jan 2014
    Carencro, LA 70520
    Posts : 7,632
    Windows 10
       20 Jun 2015 #92

    lehnerus2000 said: View Post
    Isn't that only true for those who are using Online Accounts?
    Yep if you are not using MSA you are in the same boat as any one else and need a W7 or W8.1 key.
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  3. Joined : Oct 2014
    Posts : 1,541
    W7 32 bit, Linux Mint Xfce 18 64 bit
       20 Jun 2015 #93

    This part in the quote that is in bold is a little concerning.

    Upcoming changes to Windows 10 Insider Preview builds


    Windows Insiders running the Windows 10 Insider Preview (Home and Pro editions) with their registered MSA connected to their PC will receive the final release build of Windows 10 starting on July 29th. This will come as just another flight. Iíve gotten a lot of questions from Windows Insiders about how this will work if they clean installed from ISO. As long as you are running an Insider Preview build and connected with the MSA you used to register, you will receive the Windows 10 final release build. Once you have successfully installed this build, you will also be able to clean install on that PC from final media if you want to start over fresh. Itís important to note that only people running Genuine Windows 7 or Windows 8.1 can upgrade to Windows 10 as part of the free upgrade offer.*
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  4. Joined : Jan 2014
    Posts : 952
    Windows 8.1, 10
       21 Jun 2015 #94

    groze said: View Post
    This part in the quote that is in bold is a little concerning.
    I don't remember that bit - and that text doesn't seem to be in the version that was copied and pasted in post 1 here:
    Upcoming changes to Windows 10 Insider Preview builds

    I sense that Microsoft's lawyers have woken up and asked for that extra text to be added.

    Edit: Although you could argue (and I am most definitely not a lawyer so what I'm saying could be bunkum) that the upgrade from an Insider build is different to the 'free upgrade offer' from Windows 7 or 8.1, and so those conditions don't apply.

    These tweets seem to say different though:
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  5. Joined : Oct 2014
    Posts : 282
    Windows 10!
       21 Jun 2015 #95

    DavidY said: View Post
    I don't remember that bit - and that text doesn't seem to be in the version that was copied and pasted in post 1 here:
    Upcoming changes to Windows 10 Insider Preview builds

    I sense that Microsoft's lawyers have woken up and asked for that extra text to be added.

    Edit: Although you could argue (and I am most definitely not a lawyer so what I'm saying could be bunkum) that the upgrade from an Insider build is different to the 'free upgrade offer' from Windows 7 or 8.1, and so those conditions don't apply.

    These tweets seem to say different though:
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    I'm assuming that the catch is this:

    1 - Insiders who upgrade to RTM will be given the option ​to enter a valid 7/8.1 key to get upgraded. If they don't, then they are still under Insider licence terms, which means they'll lose access to Win10 whenever MS ends the Insider Program, and builds will only remain "genuine" for a few months, so Insiders will have to stay updated to remain Genuine (like they do now).

    I expect in some way, Insiders will get to test Final, otherwise Gabe mite as well tweet "lol format and update Win7/8.1 or gtfo"
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  6. Joined : Jan 2014
    Posts : 952
    Windows 8.1, 10
       21 Jun 2015 #96

    groze said: View Post
    This part in the quote that is in bold is a little concerning.
    I just spotted another couple of edits in the text.

    The original said:
    Iíve gotten a lot of questions from Windows Insiders about how this will work if they clean installed from ISO. As long as you are running an Insider Preview build and connected with the MSA you used to register, you will receive the Windows 10 final release build and remain activated. Once you have successfully installed this build and activated, you will also be able to clean install on that PC from final media if you want to start over fresh.
    Now it says:
    Iíve gotten a lot of questions from Windows Insiders about how this will work if they clean installed from ISO. As long as you are running an Insider Preview build and connected with the MSA you used to register, you will receive the Windows 10 final release build. Once you have successfully installed this build, you will also be able to clean install on that PC from final media if you want to start over fresh. Itís important to note that only people running Genuine Windows 7 or Windows 8.1 can upgrade to Windows 10 as part of the free upgrade offer.*
    All the stuff about activation has disappeared too.
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  7. Joined : Oct 2014
    Posts : 282
    Windows 10!
       21 Jun 2015 #97

    DavidY said: View Post
    I just spotted another couple of edits in the text.

    The original said:


    Now it says:


    All the stuff about activation has disappeared too.
    There you go. Rename this thread boys, we're done.

    Suggested title - Preview Program will continue past Windows 10 launch.

    No gifts for us ):
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  8.    21 Jun 2015 #98

    yup
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  9. Joined : Oct 2014
    Posts : 282
    Windows 10!
       21 Jun 2015 #99

    Kinda fun to imagine Gabe's conversations with the suits. They probably saw the tweet, called him into their office and said "nope".
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  10.    21 Jun 2015 #100

    Seems they're just dotting their i's and crossing their t's with this amendment. The following part makes me think it's still as we thought in that insiders will be getting the final release.

    "As long as you are running an Insider Preview build and connected with the MSA you used to register, you will receive the Windows 10 final release build|"

    Interesting that the activation part has disappeared but what use would it be to us un-activated?

    Just wondering if we are reading too much into this although further clarification from Gabe wouldn't go amiss!
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