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  1. Joined : Oct 2014
    Posts : 1,542
    W7 32 bit, Linux Mint Xfce 18 64 bit
       17 Jun 2015 #91

    sgage said: View Post
    How would it be bad for MS to require a valid license from W7 or 8? Who is going to be an Insider that doesn't already run Windows?
    Sage,
    The point is insider shouldn't have to be required to have a valid license from w7 or 8 license to keep testing 10 for Microsoft after the rtm is released.
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  2. Joined : Jul 2014
    Serbia
    Posts : 7,009
    All kinds
       17 Jun 2015 #92

    sgage said: View Post
    Who is going to be an Insider that doesn't already run Windows?
    I know at least couple of them.
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  3. Joined : Nov 2013
    Toronto
    Posts : 4,289
    Win 10 Pro x64
       17 Jun 2015 #93

    groze said: View Post
    insider shouldn't have to be required to have a valid license from w7 or 8 license to keep testing 10 for Microsoft after the rtm is released.
    Was that written in the EULA?
    We shouldn't expect too much. It's MS we are talking about here.
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  4. Joined : Oct 2014
    Czech Republic
    Posts : 82
    Windows 10 TP x64
       19 Jun 2015 #94

    As I understand it, Windows Insider program will continue and the W7+ license requirement will be for getting a W10 license (for free for 1 year). Windows Insider membership does not and will not give you a W10 license. It grants you access to more or less buggy being-worked-on builds of future W10 updates, which will all eventually expire.
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  5. Joined : Jun 2014
    San Diego, CA
    Posts : 1,246
    Windows 10 Pro Insider Preview x64
       19 Jun 2015 #95

    groze said: View Post
    Sage,
    The point is insider shouldn't have to be required to have a valid license from w7 or 8 license to keep testing 10 for Microsoft after the rtm is released.
    I know more than a couple of people who were running pirated versions of XP/7/8 that grabbed the tech preview just so they could get a free OS. I'm fine with MS requiring a valid key. Why reward people who have ripped you off in the past?
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  6. Joined : Dec 2013
    Sydney, Nova Scotia, Canada
    Posts : 8,249
    Windows 10 IoT
       19 Jun 2015 #96

    If Microsoft was to give everybody that clean installed the preview a free upgrade to the RTM they may as well just give out Windows 10 to anybody that wants it. It would amount to the same thing. Everybody and their dog would sign up just to get Windows 10 for free. And for those that think Microsoft owes them something for being a tester, they gave you access to the OS before anybody else. They don't owe you anything. Also, you volunteered in the first place, nobody forced you to do it? This free isn't free enough stuff is getting old.
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  7. Joined : Jun 2014
    Posts : 4,503
    Windows 10 Pro
       19 Jun 2015 #97

    alphanumeric said: View Post
    If Microsoft was to give everybody that clean installed the preview a free upgrade to the RTM they may as well just give out Windows 10 to anybody that wants it. It would amount to the same thing. Everybody and their dog would sign up just to get Windows 10 for free. And for those that think Microsoft owes them something for being a tester, they gave you access to the OS before anybody else. They don't owe you anything. Also, you volunteered in the first place, nobody forced you to do it? This free isn't free enough stuff is getting old.
    They gave us access to the OS before anyone else so the could see what would be accepted and what wouldn't. They also wanted to have more user testing to work out as many bugs as possible. Windows 8 was not the success the thought it would be and the lack of sales was costing them money. We did them a favor by testing the OS so it could be a success and sales would be up and so would their profits. I think we did MS a bigger favor then they did for us and we did it for free. Do I expect MS to give me the OS for free? No because I volunteered. If they do decide to give us a free license I'll gladly except it and if they don't no big deal. Once 10 goes final the only way I'll dual boot is if MS decides to keep a test OS for us to keep on testing.
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  8. Joined : Dec 2013
    Sydney, Nova Scotia, Canada
    Posts : 8,249
    Windows 10 IoT
       19 Jun 2015 #98

    Winuser said: View Post
    They gave us access to the OS before anyone else so the could see what would be accepted and what wouldn't. They also wanted to have more user testing to work out as many bugs as possible. Windows 8 was not the success the thought it would be and the lack of sales was costing them money. We did them a favor by testing the OS so it could be a success and sales would be up and so would their profits. I think we did MS a bigger favor then they did for us and we did it for free. Do I expect MS to give me the OS for free? No because I volunteered. If they do decide to give us a free license I'll gladly except it and if they don't no big deal. Once 10 goes final the only way I'll dual boot is if MS decides to keep a test OS for us to keep on testing.
    I totally agree, there is give and take. It just irks me when people make out like they are getting ripped off because they didn't get a totally free ride.


    My point is, if Microsoft were to announce officially, that any and all Preview testers (even those that clean installed) were going to get a free upgrade to the RTM, guess what is going to happen. Why would you even need to worry about having a valid Windows 7 or 8 License to take them up on the free upgrade. Just download and install the Preview, and then upgrade to the RTM totally free with no need for any prior OS. Hey, if they did do it for preview testers it would be great. Just don't expect to see it announced in big bold letters anywhere. Not until the last minute anyway. And likely only open to people that signed up before a certain date. Just my 2 cents. I don't know any more than anybody else here. I don't have any super secret insider info etc. I'm gust guessing like everybody else.
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  9. Joined : Jun 2014
    Posts : 4,503
    Windows 10 Pro
       19 Jun 2015 #99

    IMO MS gave us exactly what we agreed to. I for one will be happy either way. Although I'd be happier if they did give us a free lincense and still allow us to use our previous OS.
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  10. Joined : Nov 2013
    Idaho USA
    Posts : 4,534
    OS X, Win 10
       19 Jun 2015 #100

    alphanumeric said: View Post
    If Microsoft was to give everybody that clean installed the preview a free upgrade to the RTM they may as well just give out Windows 10 to anybody that wants it. It would amount to the same thing. Everybody and their dog would sign up just to get Windows 10 for free. And for those that think Microsoft owes them something for being a tester, they gave you access to the OS before anybody else. They don't owe you anything. Also, you volunteered in the first place, nobody forced you to do it? This free isn't free enough stuff is getting old.
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