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  1.    20 Nov 2016 #111
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scottyboy99 View Post
    Hmmm, not seen that. That sounds like an extremely irritating glitch. Does the same happen when opening the films tv app (I can't remember it's precise name)? Only because both apps have similarities (user interface etc) so it's possible that if one plays up the other might do the same.

    i am sure you probably already tried but first you could go store and into the updates section just in case there is an update to groove, it may be stuck/waiting to install. Next you could try resetting the app from the Windows settings / apps section. From memory go down the apps list, select the offending app which in this case is groove and then select advanced. It should then show an option to reset the app.

    doubtful either of those suggestions will fix but worth a try
    Thanks for your reply. I have tried what you have mentioned above, with out success sadly. I can only hope the next update fixes it.
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  2.    24 Nov 2016 #112
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    Question about KB3200970 versus KB3197954

    Hello, I have been helping out a friend with an HP Pavilion X360 laptop.

    After 1607 update was OK on 11/10/16, Updates KB3194798, KB3199986, and KB3197954 failed to install on 24/10/16.

    I managed to download a CAB copy of KB3194798, and used the Offline Installer to install it successfully.

    The system then downloaded more updates, and installed KB3199986, and KB3200970, bringing the WINVER to 1493.447.

    However, I still see cumulative update KB3197954 did not get retried or re-installed. I did see that KB3197954 is
    supposed to replace KB3194798, and that it is in the Windows 10 Update History page
    showing that it brings the OS level to 14393.351.

    Am I safe to download KB3197954 from the update catalogue and install it, or has it been actually superceded by KB3200970? If it is truly cumulative, then I guess I am OK yes?

    I am trying to avoid any update "gaps", and I am not certain how "clever" the updates are structured. I always thought that there were "pre-requisite" strings that helped to dictate the proper install order, but as the update checker does NOT see or attempt to redo KB3197954, I am a bit concerned (as the detailed part of KB3200970 in the history page above does NOT show any fixes that are inside the KB3197954). Any advice appreciated.
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  3.    24 Nov 2016 #113
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    On a fresh install of AU you should have these updates in chronological order:

    KB3197954 CU
    KB3202790 FLASH
    KB890830 MRT
    KB3200970 CU

    That's how I got them anyway.

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  4.    29 Nov 2016 #114
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  5.    01 Jul 2017 #115
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    If I download and install an update from windows update catalog, is it possible that windows will no longer auto update itself?
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  6.    01 Jul 2017 #116
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    Quote Originally Posted by borhan48 View Post
    If I download and install an update from windows update catalog, is it possible that windows will no longer auto update itself?
    Hello, there are not many things that will prevent Windows 10 from automatically scanning for, and downloading updates IF they are applicable to your build, AND available in your geographic area. The update catalogue is sometimes used by people who see repeated failures, or errors, and possible failed downloads (maybe just putting a laptop to sleep, as often there is no indication that this is happening). You have to exercise caution, and ensure you choose the correct update for your installed OS level, and architecture (64-bit versus 32-bit, i.e. X64 update, or X86 update). TIP: always create a restore-point BEFORE manually installing ANY hot-fix or CU (Cumulative Update). Note that some large updates (CU type, or the up-coming Creators Edition update) are being rolled out in stages, so if you are expecting that, it may be a while for some areas and system types and builds. I am not yet on the CE edition (version 1703) and still at 1607, and I still do not have the latest CU downloading (KB4022723), but they are often late here in Australia.
    Last edited by TDOZ; 01 Jul 2017 at 02:24. Reason: Typo in OS level
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