Surface helps Apple MacBook owners trade up to Pen and on-screen touch Surface

If you look at the MAC as just hardware there's not that much difference with the hardware available to run windows on, indeed we are at a stage that there is nothing that you can do on a MAC that you cannot do at least as well on a windows system. A lot of Media professionals ( the only pros that used Macs), are actually realists, and are mostly using a PC or moving in that direction

Barman58 said:

If you look at the MAC as just hardware there's not that much difference with the hardware available to run windows on, indeed we are at a stage that there is nothing that you can do on a MAC that you cannot do at least as well on a windows system. A lot of Media professionals ( the only pros that used Macs), are actually realists, and are mostly using a PC or moving in that direction

I've never used one or even seen one first hand. I do believe they were cutting edge at one point. Not so much these days it would seem.
I lol, when I watch the Microsoft Events and see the glowing APPLE logo's in the crowd. It looks like Microsoft is determined to change that.

alphanumeric said:

I've never used one or even seen one first hand. I do believe they were cutting edge at one point. Not so much these days it would seem.
I lol, when I watch the Microsoft Events and see the glowing APPLE logo's in the crowd. It looks like Microsoft is determined to change that.

I don't think so myself, they're porting a lot of their(Microsoft) software to OS X, like Office: Office 365 for Mac, Office 2016 for Mac for example.

There are a lot of Apple fans around, they do put together some nice hardware - Since the unfortunate death of Steve Jobs I've seen the well of ideas dry up at apple. It was the same when he left to form next computers and Apple ended up going to Bill Gates for a handout (One that was offered as Microsoft needed a competitor with high visibility to beat the Monopoly accusation from the US DOJ).

Then Jobs returned and invented phones with round corners and white earphones and the rest is history

You have a core of users who still place form over function (or even Logo over quality), and they keep Apple making money but that is changing slowly, 75% plus of phones purchased worldwide are not apple products (around 75% are android) so eventually they could be a new IBM who have been both the biggest earner and the biggest loss maker in History ( remember who refused to insist that Microsoft didn't market their own version of DOS)

Cliff S said:

I don't think so myself, they're porting a lot of their(Microsoft) software to OS X, like Office: Office 365 for Mac, Office 2016 for Mac for example.

I wouldn't exactly call porting Office to MAC a "lot or their software". I do get your point though. Interesting times these are.

Cliff S said:

I don't think so myself, they're porting a lot of their(Microsoft) software to OS X, like Office: Office 365 for Mac, Office 2016 for Mac for example.

Microsoft office has long been, one of, if not the best selling additional software for all models of MAC, even more than Adobe products these days

Barman58 said:

There are a lot of Apple fans around, they do put together some nice hardware - Since the unfortunate death of Steve Jobs I've seen the well of ideas dry up at apple. It was the same when he left to form next computers and Apple ended up going to Bill Gates for a handout (One that was offered as Microsoft needed a competitor with high visibility to beat the Monopoly accusation from the US DOJ).

Then Jobs returned and invented phones with round corners and white earphones and the rest is history

You have a core of users who still place form over function (or even Logo over quality), and they keep Apple making money but that is changing slowly, 75% plus of phones purchased worldwide are not apple products (around 75% are android) so eventually they could be a new IBM who have been both the biggest earner and the biggest loss maker in History ( remember who refused to insist that Microsoft didn't market their own version of DOS)

Rumor has it they are working on an iGame device. And they poached some game designers from another company to start up a new company iBHard using the GetReal game engine. Both of those sound strangely familiar somehow?