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  1.    05 Oct 2016 #11
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    MS needs to realize that there are way to many variables involved and that forced updates is never going to work. Even if the updates were, lets say 95% successful. That still would leave 5% that failed. This is people who just want to use their computer without learning how or paying to fix their computers. IMHO, MS should have a popup that says updates/upgrades are available. Do you want to install now, Install later or skip.
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  2.    05 Oct 2016 #12
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    Quote Originally Posted by Winuser View Post
    MS needs to realize that there are way to many variables involved and that forced updates is never going to work. Even if the updates were, lets say 95% successful. That still would leave 5% that failed. This is people who just want to use their computer without learning how or paying to fix their computers. IMHO, MS should have a popup that says updates/upgrades are available. Do you want to install now, Install later or skip.
    You can always uninstall unwanted updates.....assuming you can start your computer.
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  3.    05 Oct 2016 #13
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    Quote Originally Posted by dencal View Post
    You can always uninstall unwanted updates.....assuming you can start your computer.
    That's the problem. If the computer wont boot or it boots and won't run right most people won't know what to do. I wonder how many computer got junked because of a bad upgrade or update and the user thought their device was totally broke and not worth paying to get it fixed?
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  4.    05 Oct 2016 #14
    Join Date : Nov 2015
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    Windows 10 Pro

    I've been working during 25 years for a mainframe fanufacturer. We applyed one rule : if you don't have the problem, so don't apply the patch. But MS forces you to apply their updates...
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  5.    05 Oct 2016 #15
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    Windows 10 Pro (32-bit) Insider 16291

    There's more info from Ed Bott here which looks helpful:
    http://www.zdnet.com/article/why-win...u-can-recover/
    The latest cumulative update to Windows 10, KB3194496, is causing frustration for some PC owners, with the update trying and failing repeatedly to install. I've learned who's most likely to be affected and also have two recovery options.
    the issue appears to be limited to a relatively small subset of Windows 10 devices. You are at greatest risk if you have a machine that was previously part of the Windows Insider Program but was then removed from the program. The most likely time for this to happen was in late July or early August, after the release of the Anniversary Update
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  6.    05 Oct 2016 #16
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    Quote Originally Posted by DavidY View Post
    There's more info from Ed Bott here which looks helpful:
    http://www.zdnet.com/article/why-win...u-can-recover/

    ...the issue appears to be limited to a relatively small subset of Windows 10 devices. You are at greatest risk if you have a machine that was previously part of the Windows Insider Program but was then removed from the program. The most likely time for this to happen was in late July or early August, after the release of the Anniversary Update
    Well, that's definitely the case for my one machine that had the problem!
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  7.    05 Oct 2016 #17
    Join Date : May 2016
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    Looks like they released a new cumulative update, KB3197356.
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  8.    05 Oct 2016 #18
    Join Date : Jul 2015
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    Windows 10 Pro 64bit v1709 build 16299.15

    There is nothing to fix. The errors are operator caused. MS, it ain't broke.

    I would say the install issues are a result of severely corrupted systems. By that, I mean having the wrong bios, system type 32 bit v 64 bit, compatible software all the base items of the wrong type required for a successful install. Those of you with a corrupted systems must do a clean install on a drive that has been sanitized (completely wiped clean of all data) and formatted ready to receive a new partition and the new operating system. This assumes the hardware and software(required drivers) for all of your in-use peripherals) currently will support the new operating system. This includes enough ram, and processor power just to name a few.

    This anniversary update thing, It is like trying to clean your register(don't even go there). The reg cleaner will report all kinds of bad reg entries and if you are a trigger finger kind of person you will absolutely wipe out required req files that are showing as bad or not needed by your cleaner but actually are required, rendering your system toast (but repairable if you know how, follow clean install advice above).

    Troubleshooting update problems leads you to eventually try an in place repair or worse. Repairing and already corrupted system may/will result in worse problems imo.

    Solution: Backup all your stuff and do a CLEAN INSTALL of windows. Accept the fact that some programs are now dead and ain't ever coming back. Windows 10 has lots of new things that maybe you haven't discovered yet that may be better than old stuff.

    Of course this is my opinion and I am offering my years and years and years of installing or updating operating systems with much success in the latter years. Practice makes perfect. Sort of.
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  9.    05 Oct 2016 #19
    Join Date : May 2016
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    Windows 10

    Quote Originally Posted by lopedoggie View Post
    There is nothing to fix. The errors are operator caused. MS, it ain't broke.
    That's kind of funny when Microsoft admitted to there being a problem...
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  10.    05 Oct 2016 #20
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    Windows 10 Pro 64bit v1709 build 16299.15

    ^^^ 29 July, 2015 one clean install in august 2015, no issues since then every update has successfully installed with no file system integrity issue no know defects. Sorry. I don't care what MS says. MS doesn't care either they are at no fault when it comes to this issue. Beware of chasing updates to win 10 OS from other than MS update channels or delivery means.
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