Windows 10 Release Date July 29

Wynona said:

I completely agree, Alpha. However, I don't see the danger in the Media Creation Tool's first option: Upgrade this PC. When I used it, it was almost exactly the same as other upgrades and installations I've done.

I used the media creation tool yesterday with the upgrade this pc now option and everything went great, couldn't be better, all my apps including MS Office and others worked fine, everything was duplicated just as I had it in 7 here in the new 10 upgrade. I'd recommend this tool to anyone who doesn't feel like waiting for the updates to come thru and so on. Got mine going here in just 2 hours... All is well. :)

Just for info, I already used the media creation tools to do a clean install.

Here is how I did it.
Download the Media Creation 64 bit tool
Created just the 32 bit install of windows 10. I choose install on another computer.
Created another 64 bit install of windows 10. I choose install on another computer.

I let windows 10 upgrade using gwx. Activated. Then did a clean install using the 32 bit version.
I wanted to tested out software before activating the 32 bit version, so I keep it disconnected. After skipping entering the key 3 times it finally booted up. I installed the software and it work. So, I connected the windows 10 computer to the internet, it was activated automatically and it permanently activated.

I also read the dvd player that some have bought isn't working.

My other concern is the privacy issue. Does Microsoft monitor websites you visit or keep log-in info for sites like banking, Shopping. I am not talking about apps or programs purchased through Microsoft. I disable most of the stuff in the Privacy section. I am testing out cortana. I use Firefox for logging into banking sites.

Night Hawk said:

Well first off if you are not already running with the hidden files and folders in view as I have been doing here all along since XP days I could add you could easily miss the two temp folders that showed when first having went to download 10 but only found links for the MC tool. This is how most are starting off if not having already found 10 in the updates ready to go on which seems to be how 10 is supposed to work from the start.

I've been running with hidden files and folders exposed for so long that now Windows installs with them unhidden. :) Seriously, even when I have clean installed Windows 10 builds, hidden files/folders are exposed. That's how well Microsoft has "learned" my habits. I know they're trying to keep me safe, but it still skeers me!

The only reason I had for knowing where those folders are is that I have learned to create an ISO from Install.esd and forgot to write down the location the first time I copied it.

Night Hawk said:

Well if you can only install by way of updates why the tool in both 32/64bit flavors then except to custom install if not upgrade after the first initial upgrade takes place? The first attempts were to manually run the dvd and usb flash drive methods to see the initial upgrade take place which has failed miserably each time! OOPS! That reserved copy is delivered not by the MC but MS Updates! daaaaaa..... I'll get there some time for sure! Got to have some fun in the meantime however!

Actually, I don't think I've ever said you can only install by way of updates . . . I generally do clean installs, but have to install the updates first in order to get Install.esd for the clean installs if the ISO isn't available from Microsoft. However, having said that, the two upgrades on my laptops were almost identical to the way "Upgrade This PC" upgraded my desktop.

Night Hawk said:

For those of you who already have 10 on you will want to stop by the Clean Install guide however to take notes on things there! That can save a few possible headaches later if you either plan or find you need to see a clean install.

I agree! If one has never installed an OS, it would be good to go here to get instructions:

BTW, on my computer that has been upgraded from Windows 8.1, the Install.esd file has been moved and can now be found at $Windows.~WS\Sources\installx64.esd. Yes, it seems that the name has also been changed.

1. ESD to ISO - Create Bootable ISO from Windows 10 ESD File - Windows 10 Forums
2. USB Flash Drive - Create to Install Windows 10 - Windows 10 Forums
3. Windows 10 - Clean Install - Windows 10 Forums

These three sets of instructions will show how to create an ISO from Install.esd, create a bootable flash drive (using the ISO created from Install.esd) for installing Windows 10 and finally, how to clean install Windows 10.

Disclaimer I now have to make . . . I haven't tried installx64.esd out, but it should work. I wonder also if this installx64.esd will be tied to this particular computer. Sigh . . . more testing to be done now.

Originally Posted by Wynona

I completely agree, Alpha. However, I don't see the danger in the Media Creation Tool's first option: Upgrade this PC. When I used it, it was almost exactly the same as other upgrades and installations I've done.

alphanumeric said:

Isn't that what I said?

Nah, I just thought it needed to be said that there really doesn't seem to be any danger in the Media Creation tool to upgrade a PC.

And now I'm digging myself in deeper and deeper! I thought you said, Is that what I said! Sheesh!