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  1.    29 Sep 2016 #31
    Join Date : Dec 2013
    Portsmouth Hampshire
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    Windows 10 x86 14383 Insider Pro and Core 10240

    Since there have been many problems in the series of Insider updates between 14905 - 14931 that makes Insiders revert to either a working, non-expiring feature update such as 14393 and halt their Insider updates temporarily, or rollback to one of the less problematic, but expiring-soon insider versions, It is possible that this cumulative update is part of a 'census-by-telemetry' process to discover the extent of Release Preview and Slow ring insiders (and by non-inclusion, the remainder of Fast Ring Insiders that have reverted to 14393 until a more stable Insider release is available) within the Insider population as a whole.

    I found the problem to be exacerbated by the release of a lot of new builds in a short period of time, that gave me no time to evaluate the builds, and I just felt overwhelmed - so I took a timeout from the fast ring.

    I felt that the relatively short lifetime of some of the '1607' family of insider releases before they expired at the beginning of October was a mistake - the expiry date should have been after the next long-term feature update, to enable Insiders to run these as long as they feel necessary or possible to enable the variants, without Insiders running them being pressurised to update to a subsequent short term expiry build, without any certainty of a long term feature release before the timeout occurs.

    So, I'd suggest a 6-month lifetime for Insider builds is a reasonable time, but 3 months is not, and that weekly intervals should be the minimum for the release of fast ring builds, with two weeks being a maximum.
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  2.    29 Sep 2016 #32
    Join Date : Aug 2015
    Aurora, Colorado
    Posts : 493
    Windows 10 Pro

    Quote Originally Posted by Fafhrd View Post
    Since there have been many problems in the series of Insider updates between 14905 - 14931 that makes Insiders revert to either a working, non-expiring feature update such as 14393 and halt their Insider updates temporarily, or rollback to one of the less problematic, but expiring-soon insider versions, It is possible that this cumulative update is part of a 'census-by-telemetry' process to discover the extent of Release Preview and Slow ring insiders (and by non-inclusion, the remainder of Fast Ring Insiders that have reverted to 14393 until a more stable Insider release is available) within the Insider population as a whole.

    I found the problem to be exacerbated by the release of a lot of new builds in a short period of time, that gave me no time to evaluate the builds, and I just felt overwhelmed - so I took a timeout from the fast ring.

    I felt that the relatively short lifetime of some of the '1607' family of insider releases before they expired at the beginning of October was a mistake - the expiry date should have been after the next long-term feature update, to enable Insiders to run these as long as they feel necessary or possible to enable the variants, without Insiders running them being pressurised to update to a subsequent short term expiry build, without any certainty of a long term feature release before the timeout occurs.

    So, I'd suggest a 6-month lifetime for Insider builds is a reasonable time, but 3 months is not, and that weekly intervals should be the minimum for the release of fast ring builds, with two weeks being a maximum.
    Builds 14931 and 14936 don't expire until May, 2017. MS has deduced the issues arising from short-term expiration periods and reverted to long-term periods.
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  3.    29 Sep 2016 #33
    Join Date : Dec 2013
    Portsmouth Hampshire
    Posts : 1,794
    Windows 10 x86 14383 Insider Pro and Core 10240

    Builds 14931 and 14936 don't expire until May, 2017. MS has deduced the issues arising from short-term expiration periods and reverted to long-term periods.
    Sadly 14931 had usability problems too, so folk were stuck with the problem of either:

    • lose your installed apps and files by reverting to 14393, or
    • lose function and expect shutdowns if you stick with your rollback insider version, in a matter of days.


    Hopefully 14936 will be better.

    Hopefully 14936 will be rolled out in time.

    There's no mileage in alienating or upsetting your workforce, even if they are unpaid volunteer beta testers. I hope Microsoft has learnt this lesson.
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  4.    29 Sep 2016 #34
    Join Date : Aug 2015
    Aurora, Colorado
    Posts : 493
    Windows 10 Pro

    14936 flighted to fast ring yesterday (Wednesday, 10am PDT).
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  5.    29 Sep 2016 #35
    Join Date : Dec 2013
    Portsmouth Hampshire
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    Windows 10 x86 14383 Insider Pro and Core 10240

    I received it yesterday - I hope its global rollout reaches everyone.
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  6.    29 Sep 2016 #36
    Join Date : Jul 2015
    Posts : 1,548
    Windows 10 Pro (64 bit)

    Cumulative update kb 3194496


    Anyone seeing this come down through windows update public channel tonight? Bit unexpected ! It's downloaded now but taking quite a while on 'preparing to configure windows'
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  7.    29 Sep 2016 #37
    Join Date : Oct 2015
    Posts : 7
    Windows 10 Home

    Cumulative Update for Win10 Ver 1607 for x64-based Systems (KB3194496)


    Hi All,
    I'm getting this update right now. Download is at 90%.... not sure how long it's been going.
    A search on Google says this is for Insiders but I am not an Insider.
    Anyone else getting it?
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  8.    29 Sep 2016 #38
    Join Date : Oct 2013
    Canada
    Posts : 819
    Windows 10 Home/10 Pro x 3/Windows 10 Insider Preview ?

    @Scottyboy99 I just checked WU and that update is downloading now. It is the same update that was released to Insiders yesterday and brings the build number up to 14393.222.
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  9.    29 Sep 2016 #39
    Join Date : Oct 2015
    Posts : 7
    Windows 10 Home

    Yeah, me too. I just posted in Windows Activation and Updates.
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  10.    29 Sep 2016 #40
    Join Date : Aug 2016
    S/E England
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    10 Home x64 (1709) (10 Pro on 2nd pc)
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