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  1.    08 Sep 2016 #11
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    Quote Originally Posted by groze View Post
    If allowed to say here. What was the problem with ITT? What did they do? I thought these type of schools were supposedly different then regular colleges because you didn't have to take a courses like English or stuff you already know. Plus, you can get your degree earlier.
    @Victek Thanks for sharing that.
    @groze I hate places like that pray on their students and basically deliver nothing. It's not about the curriculum about the accreditation process that a school undergoes. In ITT's case it was no were near the lever of a college or university. And the worse part is even if you earn a degree the credits are not likely transferable to any college/university. So, if you want to advance your education you will have to take all of those classes over again.

    For me it's far better to deal with the extra courses than getting ripped off by a school like this one.
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  2.    08 Sep 2016 #12
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    Quote Originally Posted by BunnyJ View Post
    I noticed that today and to be honest I have no love for profit schools like that one. Saddling students with huge loans and the use of misleading advertising makes me sick. Now they need to move onto other "schools" like this one.
    The only difference in "for profit" schools and "non-profit" schools is that the non-profits hide all of their profits in salaries and expenses... I don't know why this is not more widely appreciated. In the case of ITT, however, it seems they've been in a failing mode for quite some time and have been shutting down classes for months. Higher ed @ $40k-$60k per year these days is quite the rip off--nothing like what it was when I went to school. Smaller colleges like ITT are an attempt to make it much more affordable--but that's a difficult trick. Most state schools and ivy leagues saddle students with huge debts--much bigger than ITT, in fact. The fed government is by far the biggest college-debt holder in the country. College has become a racket, and some of the ivy leagues are turning out idiots these days...
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  3.    09 Sep 2016 #13
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    I had an ex-girlfriend that went there. I remember how awful their recruiting tactics were. I had to block the number because of all the phone calls. I think this is a wake up call for education as a whole, they will need to do the same with a lot more schools. Tuition keeps going up but there is nothing extra to show for it. Schools should have have to justify their costs better than they do now. People should not just go on the name alone anymore.
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  4.    09 Sep 2016 #14
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    Quote Originally Posted by groze View Post
    If allowed to say here. What was the problem with ITT? What did they do? I thought these type of schools were supposedly different then regular colleges because you didn't have to take a courses like English or stuff you already know. Plus, you can get your degree earlier.
    Actually, I didn't really have a problem with it. It was one of the local options that did not require me to stay on campus. Originally, I went to this school called Baker College back in 1998...but I wanted a computer degree, back then computer degrees were just starting to evolve. So during my first semester, they changed the curriculum and turned the computer class I was in, into a computer electronic engineering type class and they started having us solder capacitors to circuit boards....I was like, this is not what I want so I dropped it.

    I waited for any college to have a real computer degree and ITT was actually the first, with their associates in information technology. Back then, it covered windows NT and 2000, active directory, networking, security, etc. Unfortunately I did not learn anything as that's what I did for my daily job and pretty much just got it to get a degree under the belt, but they do make you take normal general ed classes like math, English and I even had Art which was horrible. It was like any college really, you could show up, get marked down that you were there and then we took off to go to the bar.

    Anyhow, I paid what I paid because I thought it was worth it at the time. Unfortunately the degree only lasted me so long as the roles I am trying to get into require a bachelors, so now I kind of went the same path again lol but this time with DeVry. The main reason I went with them is they transferred most of my credits from ITT and gave me a college transfer scholarship of $2500 per semester which allowed to get me a bachelors in 2 1/4 years instead of doing a 4 year program somewhere else.
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  5.    09 Sep 2016 #15
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    I went to college back in the early 80's and there were colleges that had fine CS programs. By the late 90's I can't imagine that many schools didn't have great programs by then.
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  6.    09 Sep 2016 #16
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    Quote Originally Posted by BunnyJ View Post
    I went to college back in the early 80's and there were colleges that had fine CS programs. By the late 90's I can't imagine that many schools didn't have great programs by then.
    Well yeah there were generic CS programs and the majority was just coding (most of them still are, I am not a coder)...I was looking for something specific dealing with current technology and enterprise architectures, ITT had some new director that created this program. I even talked to them 2 years ago and they don't have any program that resembles the program I was in, most places don't nowadays. The schools want you to specialize in one type of thing basically, I'm not that type of person since for the past 25 years I have had my hand in everything within IT.

    Just a FYI to anyone that did go here, I did get a response back from my loan provider so it doesn't hurt to ask:

    We are awaiting additional information on ITT Technical School loan forgiveness. It is not clear what the eligibility will be for the forgiveness or what the process will be. It is our practice to notify eligible borrowers and send a Closed School application. Please continue to watch the news as this story develops.
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  7.    09 Sep 2016 #17
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    The problem I have with that type of focus on one specialization is that when in the workforce it's hard to migrate to another part of IT. A nice general college education will let you do that and I don't know of any person in a company that wasn't allowed to move around to do different things IT related.
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  8.    12 Sep 2016 #18

    Wow, My friend Matt went here.

    Now I know the secret.
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