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  1. Posts : 7,128
    Windows 10 Pro Insider
       #60

    I have never used Chrome so I don't care what it does. On my Android phone I mostly use it as a phone and for sending text so unless the update bricks my phone I don't know if it's been updated or not.
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  2. Posts : 22,740
    Windows 10 Home x64
       #61

    lehnerus2000 said:
    People who use Chrome (God only knows why) would have an issue with an update that renders it useless.
    For Windows users that would only be an inconvenience as you could use IE (or another browser) until the issue was fixed.

    OTOH, if your OS is bricked you are "s*** out of luck".


    Based on MS' record over the past couple of years, there will be dodgy updates.


    Based on MS' record over the past couple of years, there will be dodgy updates.

    Do you even read the problems people post on the Windows forums (e.g. Black Screen of Death, Perpetual Reboot Loop, etc.)?

    There are stacks of threads related to people being unable to boot their machines after dodgy updates.
    It even happens after non-dodgy updates (due to other glitches or issues with their PCs coincidentally occurring during the update process).

    I assume you weren't paying attention during the "W8 to W8.1" saga either.
    Well,, I've been paying close attention to what's been going on here. Next, I've personally not had any major issues with MS updates and no major issues with Win10 that you mention.

    And I was paying close attention to the update from Win8 to Win8.1.. but in that case I was able to get the ISO of WIn8.1 from Technet.

    So,., have a nice day.
    Jeff
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  3. Posts : 22,740
    Windows 10 Home x64
       #62

    Winuser said:
    I have never used Chrome so I don't care what it does. On my Android phone I mostly use it as a phone and for sending text so unless the update bricks my phone I don't know if it's been updated or not.
    Chrome is my second browser and it's very good, IMO. Why?? It's fast and just gets the job done.
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  4. Posts : 7,128
    Windows 10 Pro Insider
       #63

    BunnyJ said:
    Chrome is my second browser and it's very good, IMO. Why?? It's fast and just gets the job done.
    I don't remember asking about Chrome. I don't use it . I have never used it. And probably never will use it.
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  5. Posts : 22,740
    Windows 10 Home x64
       #64

    Winuser said:
    I don't remember asking about Chrome. I don't use it . I have never used it. And probably never will use it.
    Sorry.. I misread.. again.
    Jeff
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  6. Posts : 7,128
    Windows 10 Pro Insider
       #65

    BunnyJ said:
    Sorry.. I misread.. again.
    Jeff
    Sorry! It's not you Jeff. A earlier post got me uptight.
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  7. Posts : 22,740
    Windows 10 Home x64
       #66

    Winuser said:
    Sorry! It's not you Jeff. A earlier post got me uptight.
    Ok.. I understand .. have a great Sunday.
    Jeff
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  8. Posts : 7,128
    Windows 10 Pro Insider
       #67

    Thanks, You do the same Jeff. :) Maybe if the weather is nice I'll get my bike out. Cruising helps me to relax and enjoy life.
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  9. Posts : 22,740
    Windows 10 Home x64
       #68

    Winuser said:
    Thanks, You do the same Jeff. :) Maybe if the weather is nice I'll get my bike out. Cruising helps me to relax and enjoy life.
    I loved riding a bike.. it was fun and relaxing.. Have fun!!!
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  10. Posts : 3,257
    Windows 10 Pro
       #69

    lehnerus2000 said:
    People who use Chrome (God only knows why) would have an issue with an update that renders it useless. For Windows users that would only be an inconvenience as you could use IE (or another browser) until the issue was fixed.

    OTOH, if your OS is bricked you are "s*** out of luck".

    Based on MS' record over the past couple of years, there will be dodgy updates.
    We're talking about a fundamental change in the way updates are released here. They will continue to use the "rings" model, and people in the fast ring will get updates immediately. They also take a risk that a bad patch might cause them a problem. But, that is the risk you take for being an early adopter.

    If you don't want that risk, then you drop to a lower risk ring. Millions of people will be on the fast ring, which will get patches tested VERY thoroughly before they move to the second and third rings.

    This is fundamentally different from today where they release beta patches to a small set of partners and internally for testing... and then they release the patches to everyone at once. This leads to the situation where the patches haven't been tested anywhere near as thoroughly before the general public get them... and thus when problems occasionally occur, they're kind of blind-sided.

    The model Microsoft is talking about for Windows 10 makes sense. Those that want the risks can take them. Those that don't can wait for distribution to slower rings... but regardless, eventually, everyone will be patched, rather than the selective nightmare they have now.

    lehnerus2000 said:
    Do you even read the problems people post on the Windows forums (e.g. Black Screen of Death, Perpetual Reboot Loop, etc.)?
    You are comparing the old model to the new one. The servicing models are very different.

    lehnerus2000 said:
    There are stacks of threads related to people being unable to boot their machines after dodgy updates.
    It even happens after non-dodgy updates (due to other glitches or issues with their PCs coincidentally occurring during the update process).

    I assume you weren't paying attention during the "W8 to W8.1" saga either.
    Apples and Oranges.
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