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  1.    18 May 2015 #91

    Hi there

    Subscription won't work

    Current versions of pretty well any Linux you care to name can be made to look almost "More Windows than Windows" so any user could easily use it - especially if it was packaged like Android so the user didn't have to do anything with it other than simply use it.

    People don't have trouble with Android or Apple phones / tablets so using a simple windows like version of Linux would be a doddle. Ms won't go down the subscription route for the OS as there are too many DECENT alternatives now. A few years ago Linux would have been considered too geeky but these days it can be made really simple on a dedicated desktop if required.

    If subscription was REALLY the way to go would Ms Still be offering Office 2016 as a paid product rather than force everybody into Office 365.

    For businesses and some educational facilities subscription could be the way to go but for a lot of individuals -- no way.

    How many private people LEASE cars these days -- a few but the vast majority don't do it. Businesses on the other hand do make a lot of use on leasing - so it's really TWO different business models Ms need to follow.

    Cheers
    jimbo
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  2. Joined : Jan 2014
    Oak Ridge TN, USA
    Posts : 23,939
    Windows 10 Pro x64
       18 May 2015 #92

    I thought the issue about the "subscription" was cleared up already and there would not be one for Win10. The term service did not mean that MS would charge a subscription for the OS.
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  3.    18 May 2015 #93

    BunnyJ said: View Post
    I thought the issue about the "subscription" was cleared up already and there would not be one for Win10. The term service did not mean that MS would charge a subscription for the OS.
    Hi there

    My confusion -- although "Service" to me implies a PAID offering in some form or other - usually a recurring one for as long as the service contract exists -- is this not then "a subscription" in the same way as monthly payments for ISP's etc. I suppose even paying for utility bills could be classed as a "subscription" although this is not generally classed as one. !!!

    Cheers
    jimbo
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  4. Joined : Nov 2013
    Idaho USA
    Posts : 4,534
    OS X, Win 10
       18 May 2015 #94

    Hi Jimbo, see you are spouting more of that silly stuff called Linux. . .been there done that, not going back regardless what you make the GUI look like. . ., albeit you enjoy, and whenever you are able inject into any Windows or Mac OS suite how great and wonderful Linux is, or . . .
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  5. Joined : Dec 2013
    Sydney, Nova Scotia, Canada
    Posts : 8,246
    Windows 10 IoT
       18 May 2015 #95

    BunnyJ said: View Post
    I thought the issue about the "subscription" was cleared up already and there would not be one for Win10. The term service did not mean that MS would charge a subscription for the OS.
    It was, someone made a remark "New features could be optional if a subscription is required. Don't pay for the subscription you don't get the new features." to which I half jokingly said, "Don't pay your subscription and you'll likely find out you can't continue to use Windows. ". Then things went off track again.
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  6.    18 May 2015 #96

    Lee said: View Post
    Hi Jimbo, see you are spouting more of that silly stuff called Linux. . .been there done that, not going back regardless what you make the GUI look like. . ., albeit you enjoy, and whenever you are able inject into any Windows or Mac OS suite how great and wonderful Linux is, or . . .
    Hi there.

    I LIKE Windows 10 -- I was merely stating that IF W10 were to become subscription only there are other alternatives that people could if they wanted to use instead.

    However as has been posted Ms aren't going to make W10 a recurring chargeable feature for the OS. It's still a moot point as to whether "Service updates" will be chargeable. The balance so far seems to be that it won't at least for the foreseeable future.

    Cheers
    jimbo
      My System SpecsSystem Spec


  7. Joined : Jan 2014
    Oak Ridge TN, USA
    Posts : 23,939
    Windows 10 Pro x64
       18 May 2015 #97

    jimbo45 said: View Post
    Hi there

    My confusion -- although "Service" to me implies a PAID offering in some form or other - usually a recurring one for as long as the service contract exists -- is this not then "a subscription" in the same way as monthly payments for ISP's etc. I suppose even paying for utility bills could be classed as a "subscription" although this is not generally classed as one. !!!

    Cheers
    jimbo
    In this case there will be no monthly payment to use Windows.. none.. zero.. zip. I think MS could have chose a better term in place of service but it just describes that MS views the Windows updates/patches as a service to the users.
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  8. Joined : Nov 2013
    Idaho USA
    Posts : 4,534
    OS X, Win 10
       18 May 2015 #98

    jimbo45 said: View Post
    Hi there.

    I LIKE Windows 10 -- I was merely stating that IF W10 were to become subscription only there are other alternatives that people could if they wanted to use instead.

    However as has been posted Ms aren't going to make W10 a recurring chargeable feature for the OS. It's still a moot point as to whether "Service updates" will be chargeable. The balance so far seems to be that it won't at least for the foreseeable future.

    Cheers
    jimbo
    I know you were, just being silly. . .it is that time of the night. . .
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  9. Joined : Oct 2014
    Arnold, MD
    Posts : 17,468
    Triple Boot 10 Pro & 10 Insider Pro & 8.1 Pro
       18 May 2015 #99

    BunnyJ said: View Post
    In this case there will be no monthly payment to use Windows.. none.. zero.. zip. I think MS could have chose a better term in place of service but it just describes that MS views the Windows updates/patches as a service to the users.
    The term "service" to me is like a service contract for my A/C or the bug man, that sort of stuff. I think it throws a lot of people off. IMO
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  10. Joined : Sep 2014
    Posts : 600
    Windows 10 Pro
       18 May 2015 #100

    BunnyJ said: View Post
    I thought the issue about the "subscription" was cleared up already and there would not be one for Win10. The term service did not mean that MS would charge a subscription for the OS.
    there not going to be one as I showed in another threat with tweet from Gabe Aul don't know why some people still don't believe
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