Page 23 of 31 FirstFirst ... 132122232425 ... LastLast

  1. Joined : Jan 2014
    Oak Ridge TN, USA
    Posts : 23,939
    Windows 10 Pro x64
       27 Aug 2016 #221

    lehnerus2000 said: View Post
    MS could have saved themselves a lot of grief by offering:
    • Free W10 including auto-updates, full data collection, telemetry and Cortana (no user adjustments and not removable)
    • Retail W10 with no auto-updates, data collection, telemetry and Cortana (free separate downloads for those who want them)
    MS's goal was to simplify the code base to cut costs and what you're suggesting would go against that goal.
      My System SpecsSystem Spec


  2. Joined : Feb 2015
    Bamberg Germany
    Posts : 12,965
    Microsoft Windows 10 Pro 64-bit 14393 Multiprocessor Free
       27 Aug 2016 #222

    BunnyJ said: View Post
    MS's goal was to simplify the code base to cut costs and what you're suggesting would go against that goal.
    Good argument
      My System SpecsSystem Spec


  3. Joined : Jan 2014
    Oak Ridge TN, USA
    Posts : 23,939
    Windows 10 Pro x64
       27 Aug 2016 #223

    Cliff S said: View Post
    Good argument
    In addition my understanding why MS was giving 10 away as a free upgrade to qualifying OS users was to cut back on the staff and costs needed to support the older OS's,, 7 and 8/8.1. Also when you think about the process with major updates like the AU it's a full OS instillation and there really is no way to tell what has been removed such as apps. The coders have to just reinstall everything so the OS starts off from a base state.

    The thought of coding logic to work around not reinstalling things like apps that have been removed would be nasty and very costly/time consuming and MS wants to cut back on those costs.

    My 2c,, FWIW...

    Jeff .. aka Citizen Z!!
      My System SpecsSystem Spec


  4. Joined : Feb 2015
    Bamberg Germany
    Posts : 12,965
    Microsoft Windows 10 Pro 64-bit 14393 Multiprocessor Free
       27 Aug 2016 #224

    BunnyJ said: View Post
    In addition my understanding why MS was giving 10 away as a free upgrade to qualifying OS users was to cut back on the staff and costs needed to support the older OS's,, 7 and 8/8.1. Also when you think about the process with major updates like the AU it's a full OS instillation and there really is no way to tell what has been removed such as apps. The coders have to just reinstall everything so the OS starts off from a base state.

    The thought of coding logic to work around not reinstalling things like apps that have been removed would be nasty and very costly/time consuming and MS wants to cut back on those costs.

    My 2c,, FWIW...

    Jeff .. aka Citizen Z!!
    Could an answer file check windows.old and then during "We're getting things ready" install only what the user kept/previously installed from store?
      My System SpecsSystem Spec


  5. Joined : Jan 2014
    Oak Ridge TN, USA
    Posts : 23,939
    Windows 10 Pro x64
       27 Aug 2016 #225

    Cliff S said: View Post
    Could an answer file check windows.old and then during "We're getting things ready" install only what the user kept/previously installed from store?
    You sure cold but think about the amount of code that would be required and the amount of testing involved. From my experience it would be massive and even if you could get it to work there's no way to make it even close to perfect. There would always be some issues with apps being reinstalled. Not to mention the changes that people make to the registry. That would be a nightmare to keep all of those changes in place.

    Given the overall complexity of what was suggested I think that MS took the rout that I, and many others, would have and they just set everything back to the start by reinstalling everything. It might be an issue for some but overall it's the only way they could have gone with the process.
      My System SpecsSystem Spec


  6. Joined : Feb 2015
    Bamberg Germany
    Posts : 12,965
    Microsoft Windows 10 Pro 64-bit 14393 Multiprocessor Free
       27 Aug 2016 #226

    BunnyJ said: View Post
    You sure cold but think about the amount of code that would be required and the amount of testing involved. From my experience it would be massive and even if you could get it to work there's no way to make it even close to perfect. There would always be some issues with apps being reinstalled. Not to mention the changes that people make to the registry. That would be a nightmare to keep all of those changes in place.

    Given the overall complexity of what was suggested I think that MS took the rout that I, and many others, would have and they just set everything back to the start by reinstalling everything. It might be an issue for some but overall it's the only way they could have gone with the process.
    I was just thinking about the Default apps.
      My System SpecsSystem Spec


  7. Joined : Jan 2014
    Oak Ridge TN, USA
    Posts : 23,939
    Windows 10 Pro x64
       27 Aug 2016 #227

    Cliff S said: View Post
    I was just thinking about the Default apps.
    Cutting it down to just those might make the task eaiser.
      My System SpecsSystem Spec


  8. Joined : Feb 2015
    Bamberg Germany
    Posts : 12,965
    Microsoft Windows 10 Pro 64-bit 14393 Multiprocessor Free
       27 Aug 2016 #228

    BunnyJ said: View Post
    Cutting it down to just those might make the task eaiser.
    But really, like you, if I don't want to use it, I just don't open or pin it. And being an avid Cortana user(when I think to use her), she is getting more & more integrated with the other default apps, and I might miss out on a feature if I uninstall something(not good).
    I not only like Cortana, I want more of her!!!
      My System SpecsSystem Spec


  9. Joined : Aug 2016
    other left coast
    Posts : 164
    Windows 10 14590 x64 and Win Insider test builds
       27 Aug 2016 #229

    Smart money say no new Win Insider test build today
    Click image for larger version. 

Name:	happy hour.PNG 
Views:	11 
Size:	930.3 KB 
ID:	98418
      My System SpecsSystem Spec


  10. Joined : Jan 2014
    Oak Ridge TN, USA
    Posts : 23,939
    Windows 10 Pro x64
       27 Aug 2016 #230

    Insider builds are rarely if ever dropped on weekends.
      My System SpecsSystem Spec


 
Page 23 of 31 FirstFirst ... 132122232425 ... LastLast


Similar Threads
Thread Forum
Insider Announcing Windows 10 Insider Preview Build 14388 for PC and Mobile
UPDATE: July 15th 2016 754001939445219329 752986516746493952 Source: Announcing Windows 10 Insider Preview Build 14388 for PC and Mobile | Windows Experience Blog
Windows 10 News
Insider Announcing Windows 10 Insider Preview Build 14366 & Mobile Build 14364
UPDATE: 742889757512867840 Source: Announcing Windows 10 Insider Preview Build 14366 Mobile Build 14364 | Windows Experience Blog
Windows 10 News
Mobile Announcing Windows 10 Mobile Insider Preview Build 10586.71
694219598275588096 UPDATE: 695366743150100480 Source: Announcing Windows 10 Mobile Insider Preview Build 10586.71 | Windows Experience Blog
Windows 10 News
Mobile Announcing Windows 10 Mobile Insider Preview Build 14267
700802623230726144 Source: Announcing Windows 10 Mobile Insider Preview Build 14267 | Windows Experience Blog
Windows 10 News
Mobile Announcing Windows 10 Mobile Insider Preview Build 10586
667788240343035904 667100737957183488 667102048412913664
Windows 10 News
Our Sites
Site Links
About Us
Windows 10 Forums is an independent web site and has not been authorized, sponsored, or otherwise approved by Microsoft Corporation. "Windows 10" and related materials are trademarks of Microsoft Corp.

Designer Media Ltd

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 20:50.
Find Us
Twitter Facebook Google+



Windows 10 Forums