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lehnerus2000 said:

MS could have saved themselves a lot of grief by offering:

• Free W10 including auto-updates, full data collection, telemetry and Cortana (no user adjustments and not removable)
• Retail W10 with no auto-updates, data collection, telemetry and Cortana (free separate downloads for those who want them)

MS's goal was to simplify the code base to cut costs and what you're suggesting would go against that goal.

BunnyJ said:

MS's goal was to simplify the code base to cut costs and what you're suggesting would go against that goal.

Good argument:)

Cliff S said:

Good argument:)

In addition my understanding why MS was giving 10 away as a free upgrade to qualifying OS users was to cut back on the staff and costs needed to support the older OS's,, 7 and 8/8.1. Also when you think about the process with major updates like the AU it's a full OS instillation and there really is no way to tell what has been removed such as apps. The coders have to just reinstall everything so the OS starts off from a base state.

The thought of coding logic to work around not reinstalling things like apps that have been removed would be nasty and very costly/time consuming and MS wants to cut back on those costs.

My 2c,, FWIW...

Jeff .. aka Citizen Z!!

BunnyJ said:

In addition my understanding why MS was giving 10 away as a free upgrade to qualifying OS users was to cut back on the staff and costs needed to support the older OS's,, 7 and 8/8.1. Also when you think about the process with major updates like the AU it's a full OS instillation and there really is no way to tell what has been removed such as apps. The coders have to just reinstall everything so the OS starts off from a base state.

The thought of coding logic to work around not reinstalling things like apps that have been removed would be nasty and very costly/time consuming and MS wants to cut back on those costs.

My 2c,, FWIW...

Jeff .. aka Citizen Z!!

Could an answer file check windows.old and then during "We're getting things ready" install only what the user kept/previously installed from store?

Cliff S said:

Could an answer file check windows.old and then during "We're getting things ready" install only what the user kept/previously installed from store?

You sure cold but think about the amount of code that would be required and the amount of testing involved. From my experience it would be massive and even if you could get it to work there's no way to make it even close to perfect. There would always be some issues with apps being reinstalled. Not to mention the changes that people make to the registry. That would be a nightmare to keep all of those changes in place.

Given the overall complexity of what was suggested I think that MS took the rout that I, and many others, would have and they just set everything back to the start by reinstalling everything. It might be an issue for some but overall it's the only way they could have gone with the process.

BunnyJ said:

You sure cold but think about the amount of code that would be required and the amount of testing involved. From my experience it would be massive and even if you could get it to work there's no way to make it even close to perfect. There would always be some issues with apps being reinstalled. Not to mention the changes that people make to the registry. That would be a nightmare to keep all of those changes in place.

Given the overall complexity of what was suggested I think that MS took the rout that I, and many others, would have and they just set everything back to the start by reinstalling everything. It might be an issue for some but overall it's the only way they could have gone with the process.

I was just thinking about the Default apps.

Cliff S said:

I was just thinking about the Default apps.

Cutting it down to just those might make the task eaiser.

BunnyJ said:

Cutting it down to just those might make the task eaiser.

But really, like you, if I don't want to use it, I just don't open or pin it. And being an avid Cortana user(when I think to use her), she is getting more & more integrated with the other default apps, and I might miss out on a feature if I uninstall something(not good).
I not only like Cortana, I want more of her!!!

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