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  1.    14 Aug 2016 #221
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    Quote Originally Posted by dencal View Post
    Correct me if necessary.....an in place upgrade is not using an ISO?
    An in-place upgrade is an upgrade install where installed software and user data are left in-place and are still available after the upgrade, only upgrading the core OS in existing Windows installation.

    As such it is the opposite of clean install which does not keep installed software and user data.
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  2.    14 Aug 2016 #222
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    Quote Originally Posted by BunnyJ View Post
    I've been running the insider as my primary for about the same time with similar results. But in my case I just took the dive and I didn't dual boot with 8.1. I'm a risk taking rabbit.


    I had bad experience with Alpha and beta versions of W8 so I didn't trust W10 at the beginning.
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  3.    14 Aug 2016 #223
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    Quote Originally Posted by CountMike View Post
    I had bad experience with Alpha and beta versions of W8 so I didn't trust W10 at the beginning.
    I was lucky and I never have had an issue with the beta of 7 or 8 so those results motivated me to take the dive right into the insider for 10.
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  4.    14 Aug 2016 #224
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fafhrd View Post
    more than a dozen Perseids, the odd sporadic. and over half a dozen rogue satellites over my part of the UK in the last 45 minutes, Oh,and 14901 100% downloaded!
    Aberdeen - raining as usual :-(.
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  5.    14 Aug 2016 #225
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kari View Post
    An in-place upgrade is an upgrade install where installed software and user data are left in-place and are still available after the upgrade, only upgrading the core OS in existing Windows installation.

    As such it is the opposite of clean install which does not keep installed software and user data.
    To confuse matters, you can also upgrade selecting not to keep data and software. I call this a "fairly clean install" but this is not as clean as a proper clean install e.g. registry contains detritus from old install. I think it keeps old drivers as well.
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  6.    14 Aug 2016 #226
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    Quote Originally Posted by cereberus View Post
    To confuse matters, you can also upgrade selecting not to keep data and software. I call this a "fairly clean install" but this is not as clean as a proper clean install e.g. registry contains detritus from old install. I think it keeps old drivers as well.
    And than there's also "Bare metal" setup.
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  7.    14 Aug 2016 #227
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kari View Post
    An in-place upgrade is an upgrade install where installed software and user data are left in-place and are still available after the upgrade, only upgrading the core OS in existing Windows installation.

    As such it is the opposite of clean install which does not keep installed software and user data.
    Is not creating an ESD to ISO and installing clean.....not an upgrade install....ie:- including detritus left behind from previous iteration.
    An upgrade to the average person means an upgrade, users outside of these forums would not have a clue on creating an ISO from an ESD.
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  8.    14 Aug 2016 #228
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    If I were to perform a clean install right now, I would clean install with 14393 with a Local Account, get critical updates, switch to an MS Account and upgrade to 14901.
    The OS then would be 99.9% issue free including my SATA Controller issue! (Strange but true!)

    However, no time for all that!
    This will have to suffice for now: (I may be able to get a couple loads of laundry in!)

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  9.    14 Aug 2016 #229
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    Quote Originally Posted by dencal View Post
    Is not creating an ESD to ISO and installing clean.....not an upgrade install....ie:- including detritus left behind from previous iteration.
    An upgrade to the average person means an upgrade, users outside of these forums would not have a clue on creating an ISO from an ESD.
    Clean install is clean install.

    • Any installation started with booting the PC with Windows install media is clean install, regardless what kind of install media is used (self made ISO burned to DVD / USB, Windows install DVD / USB bought from MS Store or any retailer and so on). A clean install can be done by wiping the hard disks empty removing all partitions, or on top of an existing Windows installation in which case old installation is moved to Windows.old folder.
    • Any installation started with launching Windows setup from desktop of an existing installation and selecting to keep installed software and user data is an in-place upgrade install, regardless what kind of install media is used. If user then selects to keep nothing or only user data it is an upgrade install, not an in-place upgrade.
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  10.    14 Aug 2016 #230
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kari View Post
    Clean install is clean install.

    • Any installation started with booting the PC with Windows install media is clean install, regardless what kind of install media is used (self made ISO burned to DVD / USB, Windows install DVD / USB bought from MS Store or any retailer and so on). A clean install can be done by wiping the hard disks empty removing all partitions, or on top of an existing Windows installation in which case old installation is moved to Windows.old folder.
    • Any installation started with launching Windows setup from desktop of an existing installation and selecting to keep installed software and user data is an in-place upgrade install, regardless what kind of install media is used. If user then selects to keep nothing or only user data it is an upgrade install, not an in-place upgrade.
    Having never used the ESD to ISO method to upgrade during the Insider programme, always did the conventional method, thinking M$ would be more concerned that the user would find any bugs encountered in the course of the update.

    Thank you for your concise explanation.
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