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  1.    11 May 2015 #41
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    Quote Originally Posted by gzt7d8 View Post
    So then what's the whole point of this news? We already heard that we were going to get a free upgrade for the first year within the release of Windows 10 and "yes" you would still need a valid license to upgrade.

    I feel like we are chasing our tail on this one. I don't see the hidden jewel in this one.
    I was thinking exactly the same thing.

    Back to where I was before - get a freebie for my main comp that was on 8.1 and buy a copy for my wife's Vista machine that I had installed win 10 on "just in case"!
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  2.    11 May 2015 #42
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    So, Jeff, they have confirmed that we can upgrade directly from TP to RTM? I thought this was understood quite a while ago.

    MS seem to be masters of obfuscation in this area. Every statement seems to lead to more questions!

    Anyway, I'm cool - buy one get one free!

    But still undecided whether I will update in situ or scrap this setup and start again. Probably best to do a clean install but I haven't had any noticeable problems with updates from 7 to 8 to 8.1 to 10 done so far. Must be a lot of crap there, though, so will probably bite the bullet and start afresh.
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  3.    11 May 2015 #43
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    Quote Originally Posted by gzt7d8 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Dave44 View Post
    Windows 10 RTM upgrade: Windows Insiders will still need a valid Windows 8 license

    http://www.winbeta.org/news/windows-...dows-8-license

    so no valid windows 7 or 8 key no valid windows 10
    So then what's the whole point of this news? We already heard that we were going to get a free upgrade for the first year within the release of Windows 10 and "yes" you would still need a valid license to upgrade.

    I feel like we are chasing our tail on this one. I don't see the hidden jewel in this one.
    Agreed.

    This entire rumour/story has been a waste of time and it's also misleading.
    If someone had just built a new PC and put W10TP on it, they won't be entitled to an upgrade, unless they had an existing/spare OS license available.

    How is this any different to what has been proposed for ordinary W7 & W8 series users?
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  4.    11 May 2015 #44
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    Quote Originally Posted by lehnerus2000 View Post
    Agreed.

    This entire rumour/story has been a waste of time and it's also misleading.
    If someone had just built a new PC and put W10TP on it, they won't be entitled to an upgrade, unless they had an existing/spare OS license available.

    How is this any different to what has been proposed for ordinary W7 & W8 series users?
    First, it was not rumored. It was posted by Gabriel Aul but a further tweet corrected it. As of 10:29 p.m. EDT U.S. 5/11/2015 this site has not be updated with the correction Windows Insiders will be able to upgrade to Windows 10 RTM for free | Windows Central
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  5.    11 May 2015 #45
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    Quote Originally Posted by davehc View Post
    I am very low grade at searching in Twitter. Could someone point me to the actual post where he said/confirmed this? Darned if I can find it!
    Me too, Dave. In fact, I have never done twitter at all. My kids forced me onto Facebook and that's enough for me.

    Seems to me that everyone who's testing Windows 10 is most likely on Win 7 or 8/8.1, so it's a given that Insiders would get the free upgrade. Not that I'm trying to rain on anyone's parade. It would be really nice if that were true, because I want it on all my computers, including the old, old HP laptop with only Windows 10 on it.
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  6.    11 May 2015 #46
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    Quote Originally Posted by f14tomcat View Post
    Gabe's Tweet...

    Gabriel Aul on Twitter:
    Yep, I was afraid of that:

    Gabriel Aul ‏@GabeAul 12h12 hours ago @DirtyWindows_ @tao_huan You'll have to be upgrading from a system with a valid license for 7 or 8.x

    This was further down in the body of the thread.
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  7.    11 May 2015 #47
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    Quote Originally Posted by davehc View Post
    Abe did follow his first comment up with:

    "You'll have to be upgrading from a system with a valid license for 7 or 8.x."

    And it looks like it must be done within one year.
    Exactly right, Dave. I saw that too. And yes, from the first, we were told we would have one year to "collect" our upgrade.
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  8.    11 May 2015 #48
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    Quote Originally Posted by f14tomcat View Post
    This is what I got as a reply from Gabe Aul when I tweeted him for "clarification"..... clear as mud!

    Ricky on Twitter:

    What the h*&^ does "with" mean? Booted in 7 as you do it? Booted in 8.1 as you do it? Booted in 10 as you do it and have the license key handy as you do it? To copy/paste? Key in? WHAT DOES HE REALLY MEAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Keep 7 and/or 8.1 license??????

    AAAaaaarrrrrggggghhhhhhh!!!!!
    There, there, now <pat, pat, pat>

    Have you ever known Microsoft to tell us all their secrets in advance? I have to say, though, from the beginning, we were told that all valid licenses for Windows 7 and 8.x would be allowed to upgrade to Windows 10 RTM for free. What we haven't been told yet is how it will be done (mechanics) and what the supported life of our machines will be (they haven't figured that out yet).

    They do seem to have backed off the "everyone" would include even pirated copies; now it's a valid license, which to me is good. I may not seem very nice when I say I don't want those who stole their copy of Windows to get the free upgrade along with me, but why should I pay full price while a thief gets off scot free . . .
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  9.    11 May 2015 #49
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    Quote Originally Posted by gzt7d8 View Post
    So then what's the whole point of this news? We already heard that we were going to get a free upgrade for the first year within the release of Windows 10 and "yes" you would still need a valid license to upgrade.

    I feel like we are chasing our tail on this one. I don't see the hidden jewel in this one.
    Human nature, m'dear gzt7d8.

    We all want a bargain. And we're just greedy enough to want more than what we thought we were going to get. Ever heard the phrase, "You can't have your cake and eat it too?" Well, we all want our cake and for awhile there, we thought we were gonna get to eat it too!
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  10.    11 May 2015 #50
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    Are you folks really trying to make something from nothing. . ."It is going to be FREE." Nothing more and nothing less. Just figure out what free is and go from there. . .
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