Windows 10: Microsoft Official Confirms “Windows 10 Is the Last Version of Windows

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       07 May 2015 #11

    Cliff S said: View Post
    Updates and patches fore the core system will remain free.

    The question is, "In the future when the want to add other capabilities, will the be Add Features to Windows 10?", which wouldn't be so bad for people who don't want or need a new product an the resulting bulk.

    An example is Microsoft puts DVR capability in XBOX then decides "Hey wouldn't it be cool to offer this to the Windows 10 users!". I have a SAGEM DVR(4 "Heads") and don't need one on my PC. It would also probably cost something because of CODEC licensing too.
    They already had DVR on W8.1 and are removing it on W10 and I am not Happy.
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       07 May 2015 #12

    It's just, I have always preferred component systems to all in one(when it comes to media like stereo's TV's and such), because if one craps the bed, I can always use the rest(unless it's my amp). Plus a separate DVR is more secure as running through your PC. This is cable and SAT mind you, I don't use the internet for TV, so for people who do, I can understand this bitter pill, specially the ones who had to pay and upgrade to 8.1 pro just so the can turn around and pay for WMC. That's just not fair.
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       07 May 2015 #13

    Cliff S said: View Post
    It's just, I have always preferred component systems to all in one(when it comes to media like stereo's TV's and such), because if one craps the bed, I can always use the rest(unless it's my amp). Plus a separate DVR is more secure as running through your PC. This is cable and SAT mind you, I don't use the internet for TV, so for people who do, I can understand this bitter pill, specially the ones who had to pay and upgrade to 8.1 pro just so the can turn around and pay for WMC. That's just not fair.
    You don't need WMC for internet TV you need it for over the Air TV and for cable card without having to rent a box from the cable company.
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       07 May 2015 #14

    labeeman said: View Post
    You don't need WMC for internet TV you need it for over the Air TV and for cable card without having to rent a box from the cable company.
    OH ok. In Germany an OtA USB stick is enough. They are waaaaayyyy behind on DVB-T. Only about 13 Öffentlich Rechtliche(Public Broadcasting) senders and some(very few) Private senders in Metropolitan areas.
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  5.    07 May 2015 #15

    jisr7 said: View Post
    Microsoft wants to do, what Apple does with OSX.

    Btw, I dont think there will be a subscription model.

    jisr7

    The only reason Apple charges so little for OS X is because Apple makes its money on the Mac hardware that they tie OS X to so that OS X can't be legally or easily run on anything else... Microsoft would hasten towards bankruptcy to follow Apple's example (in so many ways!) An old joke is: "Mac OS is the dongle that ships with every Mac Apple sells." That's exactly what it is, too. Apple is pretty near exclusively a hardware company whereas Microsoft is pretty near exclusively a software company--ergo, Microsoft cannot copy Apple unless it has a death wish--any more than Apple can drop hardware and start competing with Microsoft as a software company. 2/3 of Apple's total business is in cell-phone hardware; 2/3's +++ of Microsoft's is software.

    Microsoft is doing two things by providing free upgrades for 8.1/Win7 owners:

    1) Making up for the debacle of 8/8.1 with its customer base

    2) Moving everyone as quickly as it can to Windows 10

    Apple, otoh, sells OS X versions for next to nothing because the only function of OS X for Apple is its value as a dongle to force OS X customers to buy their hardware from Apple. Windows will run on anything x86 made by anyone, including today's Macs, but OS X won't run on anything except an x86 IBM-PC compatible Intel clone sold by Apple (a "Mac".) Apple deliberately cripples OS X in that regard, and the artificial tying of OS X to Apple Mac firmware keeps OS X from having to go to head-to-head competition with Windows in the global OS markets. It is entirely understandable, therefore, why Microsoft eternally has >93% of the worldwide consumer desktop OS market and Apple is eternally stuck at around ~5% of that same market.
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  6.    07 May 2015 #16

    Here we go again, bring back Aero or I'm gone, bring back the Menu or I'm gone, get rid of the tiles or I'm gone, bring back the stop button or I'm gone, charge $100 and I'm gone, make it free and I'm gone. Leave out WMC and I'm gone.

    Sucks to be Microsoft.
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  7.    07 May 2015 #17

    If Windows 10 is the last system and that is for free for most existing users that want it during the first year, I wonder how they are going to make money - applications, new users, overpriced tablets, anything else ??
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       07 May 2015 #18

    whs said: View Post
    If Windows 10 is the last system and that is for free for most existing users that want it during the first year, I wonder how they are going to make money - applications, new users, overpriced tablets, anything else ??
    At the build keynote speech the Windows store was I think in every other sentence. In Ignite the same thing. Business will not get a free ride. One drive will not will not be free.
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  9.    07 May 2015 #19

    whs said: View Post
    If Windows 10 is the last system and that is for free for most existing users that want it during the first year, I wonder how they are going to make money - applications, new users, overpriced tablets, anything else ??
    What overpriced tablets, you must be thinking of the fruit company, I bought a full Windows 8.1 tablet for $165, I bought the original Surface for $220. The new Surface 3 is around $600 depending where you live, a bargain.
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  10.    07 May 2015 #20

    Microsoft wants to get rid of the stigma of users stuck on older versions of windows, and so they are treating windows as a service much like Apples Osx. From my understanding most of their money comes from the business side of their services, license fees from vendors(Dell, Asus, etc..), Office for Windows/Mac and patents from other platforms. People buying windows don't account for much of ms profits. (someone correct me If I'm wrong ).

    They basically want you to use the Store, Cortana, One Note, Bing, Outlook, One Drive and other Microsoft services/products. In the end they want to have an ecosystem like Googles, and as much as Microsoft gives google a hard time for ad revenue if bing gets more users I bet they would do a lot of the same business practices. I could be wrong but I have seen adds in some of the store apps from ms.

    Their was a big article about how much China pirates windows. We also know it happens a lot elsewhere. Look at how many game now have a free to play model. (Don't get me started with free to play, in almost all cases I hate it. )
    How much longer could Microsoft sell their os and count on it as reliable revenue?

    Additionally they want to use this on the phone side by marketing that their is no fragmentation. Microsoft think's having a model like Apples will allow them to steal away android users. Same applies to Xbox, If you own everything else Microsoft then they all play nice.
    Microsoft reveals how it will make money giving away software | The Verge

    I don't think they will sell windows as a subscription, instead they will sell office, Windows phones, store purchases, ad revenue form Bing, Azure platform, licenses, and other products services.
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