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  1. Joined : Dec 2013
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    Windows 10 IoT
       10 May 2015 #91

    I personally have absolutely no interest in a subscription plan for Windows or Office. If I wasn't an MVP I'd still be running Windows 7 and Office 2007 on my desktop PC. My laptop came with Windows 8 so its running 8.1 currently. I'd love to have a look see at Office 2016 Preview but I'm not setting up an office 365 subscription just to do it. I'm just not. I also have no use for One Drive, not at present anyway. I'm a retired stay at home type so my needs are simple compared to some.
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  2. Joined : Oct 2014
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    W7 32 bit, Linux Mint Xfce 18 64 bit
       10 May 2015 #92

    alphanumeric said: View Post
    I personally have absolutely no interest in a subscription plan for Windows or Office. If I wasn't an MVP I'd still be running Windows 7 and Office 2007 on my desktop PC. My laptop came with Windows 8 so its running 8.1 currently. I'd love to have a look see at Office 2016 Preview but I'm not setting up an office 365 subscription just to do it. I'm just not. I also have no use for One Drive, not at present anyway. I'm a retired stay at home type so my needs are simple compared to some.
    alphanumeric
    You know that you can dual boot. Whs is a mvp but I think he triple boots.
    Last edited by groze; 10 May 2015 at 10:56.
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  3. Joined : Dec 2013
    Sydney, Nova Scotia, Canada
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    Windows 10 IoT
       10 May 2015 #93

    groze said: View Post
    alphanumeric
    You know that you can dual boot. Whs is a mvp but I think he triple boots.
    What does dual booting have to do with what I said?
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  4. Joined : Sep 2014
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    64-bit 10240 10 Pro
       10 May 2015 #94

    Jody Thornton said: View Post
    Yeppers! See I used to sound like Gary, but that was because I had a weak video card. But on a capable system, Aero and Glass fly. And that includes Vista, which smokes on my system. And remember that Windows 8x and 10 Previews DO HAVE Aero. Just glass effects are disabled.
    I do not have a weak Video card. It is a GeForce 750Ti, I also have an I7 960 Intel CPU @ 3.20 GHhz. Along with that 24GB of Corsair Memory. If you are trying to say that Vista was a real fast OS , I would have to disagree. What I should have posted is that Aero and Glass CAN slow your system down.
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  5.    10 May 2015 #95

    I'm saying that with capable hardware, a good video adapter, and the appropriate amount of RAM, Vista with SP2 (especially if you source the x64 build with SP2 built right in) works just as well as "7". I know that 7 runs better than Vista in 1 GB of RAM, but that hardly qualifies as appropriate for either system. A lot of the Vista "gotchas" have long been fixed.

    I get that meant to say "can" have slow downs. I would think that with the system specs you've posted, you'd have no Aero based slow downs. Sounds like a terrific box you have.
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  6. Joined : Oct 2014
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    W7 32 bit, Linux Mint Xfce 18 64 bit
       10 May 2015 #96

    Jody Thornton said: View Post
    One other thing: perhaps if Microsoft wanted to cater to segments of the market that felt left in the cold by Windows 10, they should create similar builds resembling older versions of Windows, but with today's security/build model:

    We could have Windows Aero, It would have the default look and option of Windows 7 with glass effect and Modern/Metro apps would be removed. To simplify build updates, eradicate IE and just include Edge. The Windows component store could be updated to reflect the cleanup benefits of Windows 8x/10x. Compatibility with applications would be the same as Win8x/10x.

    Then we could have Windows Classic. This build would resemble the look of Windows XP, and use the classic themeing engine, without Aero. Many of MMC snap-ins could be reworked to resemble the classic NT 5x look, but maintain the same working code beneath to simplify updates between the different OS builds. Since there would be a modern video rendering engine built in, and since Microsoft would want a consistent update system between all of their OS builds, they could just eradicate IE and include Edge here as well. And it would use the Windows Component Store to perform updates and installation. Even though I hate the WinSxS bloat, you can't ask Microsoft to go back to a Windows NT 5x security and system model.

    If I were Microsoft, I would forgo including all of the 8x/10x enterprise apps in these builds, and any Modern interfacing. That would serve as a value added marketing approach to nudge users to upgrade to Windows 10. Meanwhile, the large set of users who are 7 and XP fans would be happy to have systems which work the way they like.
    I agree
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  7. Joined : Oct 2014
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    W7 32 bit, Linux Mint Xfce 18 64 bit
       10 May 2015 #97

    Jody Thornton said: View Post
    I'm saying that with capable hardware, a good video adapter, and the appropriate amount of RAM, Vista with SP2 (especially if you source the x64 build with SP2 built right in) works just as well as "7". I know that 7 runs better than Vista in 1 GB of RAM, but that hardly qualifies as appropriate for either system. A lot of the Vista "gotchas" have long been fixed.

    I get that meant to say "can" have slow downs. I would think that with the system specs you've posted, you'd have no Aero based slow downs. Sounds like a terrific box you have.

    Areo slow things down? I have used Areo themes myself on windows 7 low end system look at my specs but didn't see any slow downs.
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  8. Joined : Oct 2013
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    Windows 7
       10 May 2015 #98

    groze said: View Post
    alphanumeric
    You know that you can dual boot. Whs is a mvp but I think he triple boots.
    Sorry, I have to correct that. I never double or triple booted. My three main host systems are Windows 7 and I run W8.1, W10TP and 4 Linux systems in virtual under VMware Player. Those also run on my four W8.1 PCs when needed.
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  9. Joined : Oct 2014
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    W7 32 bit, Linux Mint Xfce 18 64 bit
       10 May 2015 #99

    whs said: View Post
    Sorry, I have to correct that. I never double or triple booted. My three main host systems are Windows 7 and I run W8.1, W10TP and 4 Linux systems in virtual under VMware Player. Those also run on my four W8.1 PCs when needed.
    Sorry, thought you did at one time.
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  10. Joined : Dec 2013
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    Windows 8.1.1 64-bit
       10 May 2015 #100

    alphanumeric said: View Post
    IMHO, installing from a USB thumb drive is the way to go. Faster than doing the install from optical media. Also easy to redo if a new image comes out. No size restrictions too.
    All of my stand-alone trial setups of Win 10 (as opposed to VM installations) have been as upgrades over Win 8.1, so I just mount the ISO and go from there. So far, most setups have been trouble-free (looks around for some timber to knock upon... ).


    Wenda.
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