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  1.    07 Aug 2016 #161
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    Windows 10 Pro

    Quote Originally Posted by Lakerfanalways View Post
    Im trying this again but at no point when the laptop rebooted did I get ANY message about pressing any key I just left everything alone, like when I did it with the disc, and it goes ahead and asks me to install everything again this is nuts

    Turns out I had to take out the USB thumb drive AFTER it finished now its on getting ready :-)
    It depends upon how the BIOS/UEFI is set up. Your BIOS/UEFI can be set up to boot from the installed hard drive/SSD first. In that case, you press a key to get into a boot menu which allows you to override the default setting and boot from the USB or DVD instead. In that case, the override is for that boot only and when Windows setup reboots the computer, it will follow the order set in BIOS/UEFI and boot from the installed hard drive/SSD first and then continue the setup process from there.

    Or your BIOS/UEFI can be set to always boot from a USB/DVD first - if one is present. In that case, when Windows setup restarts the computer during setup, the BIOS/UEFI boots from the still inserted USB flash drive or DVD and the setup program starts again from the very beginning because the Windows 10 USB flash drive or DVD is not modified during the setup process. In that case the solution is to remove the USB flash drive or DVD and force the computer to restart and boot from the installed hard drive or SSD and Windows setup will continue from there.
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  2.    08 Aug 2016 #162
    Join Date : Apr 2014
    Posts : 3,361
    W10 Pro x64/W7 Ultimate x64 dual boot main - W10 Pro Insider Preview/W7 Pro x64 - remote pc

    Quote Originally Posted by Lakerfanalways View Post
    Im trying this again but at no point when the laptop rebooted did I get ANY message about pressing any key I just left everything alone, like when I did it with the disc, and it goes ahead and asks me to install everything again this is nuts

    Turns out I had to take out the USB thumb drive AFTER it finished now its on getting ready :-)
    You were still set to have the flash drive as first in the boot order which would be the same as when having the cd rom set as first where you had to eject the media in either case to prevent the boot from that. That prevents the installer from firing up all over again.

    Generally if the need to change optical or usb to first arrises as with the HP laptop that apparently offered no F4, F11, or F12 Boot device menu option at post time when first turning the unit on I would pause the posts to reset the OS drive to first and then allow the rest of the installation or upgrade to proceed since the installation files had already been unpacked onto the main drive before the first automatic restart takes place.

    At any other time and seen most often with desktops far much more so then with laptops, tablets with limited options you would otherwise hit the F key assigned for the boot device menu and never even change the boot order from HD to removable but simply boot from the one time boot session to see the setup files unpacked and then watch the automatic boot into the OS drive where the install continues on from. You get used to it after a few tries!
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  3.    08 Aug 2016 #163
    Join Date : Mar 2016
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    Windows 10 Home

    Quote Originally Posted by Night Hawk View Post
    And you are also running the Home edition not the Pro edition
    My download includes the Home, Pro, and Education editions.
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  4.    08 Aug 2016 #164
    Join Date : Jul 2016
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    Windows 10

    I got my update through Windows Update . I uninstalled BitDefender Free AV before doing the update, so far so good.
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  5.    08 Aug 2016 #165
    Join Date : Aug 2015
    Posts : 43
    Microsoft Windows 10 Home 64-bit

    Just run the Setup which checked my PC and found no problems. It then downloaded and run the setup but has stopped at this screen.

    Click image for larger version. 

Name:	Capture2.JPG 
Views:	6 
Size:	32.3 KB 
ID:	94897

    I have no idea what program is causing the problem and I assume the text and/or icon should be a hyperlink - they aren't. There seems no way out other than closing down the dialog. Clicking "Refresh" just shows the same dialog again. How do I find out what program it's complaining about?

    BTW I'm running a recent install from scratch and all programs have been installed since the install. None are exhibiting any problems.

    [Edit] Just exited the dialog and received the message "You can contact Microsoft support for help with error code 0xc1900209"

    Cheers,
    Norman
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  6.    08 Aug 2016 #166
    Join Date : Dec 2013
    Sydney, Nova Scotia, Canada
    Posts : 10,151
    Windows 10 IoT

    Quote Originally Posted by Night Hawk View Post
    You will then want to download the iso by way of the MC Tool save to folder option which covers everything and be prepared for the manual upgrade as I had to see here on the Toshiba 17" ordered back in January which apparently had the TH2 preinstalled. The RS1 didn't show when going to update that as well as on the main still running the 386 Insider and the seconrdary with 393.5 where those two already running the RS1 only Insider not general had to be manually tended to as well as the 3rd desktop which saw the TH2 upgrade from 7 just lately in order to grab the offer as well as update things for the system which presently lacks any ISP.
    (That situation is another matter entirely there!)
    I just downloaded an ISO from MSDN, and put it on a flash drive. You can't get the Education version via the MCT as far as I know. One upgraded on its own via windows update. Another I upgraded manually. They've had clean installs done on them since then for testing purposes anyway. My wife's laptop is the only PC that, as far as I know, hasn't upgraded. I'd have to go have a look see next time she has it on.
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  7.    08 Aug 2016 #167
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    Windows 10 Pro

    Quote Originally Posted by alphanumeric View Post
    I just downloaded an ISO from MSDN, and put it on a flash drive. You can't get the Education version via the MCT as far as I know. One upgraded on its own via windows update. Another I upgraded manually. They've had clean installs done on them since then for testing purposes anyway. My wife's laptop is the only PC that, as far as I know, hasn't upgraded. I'd have to go have a look see next time she has it on.
    @alphanumeric, The current media creation tool does download Education version. This is from a dual 32/64-bit ISO file created with the Media Creation Tool on 8/2/16 at 1:56 PM:

    Click image for larger version. 

Name:	Capture1.JPG 
Views:	3 
Size:	61.0 KB 
ID:	94909

    Code:
    I:\x64\sources>dism /get-wiminfo /wimfile:install.esd
    
    Deployment Image Servicing and Management tool
    Version: 10.0.14393.0
    
    Details for image : install.esd
    
    Index : 1
    Name : Windows 10 Pro
    Description : Windows 10 Pro
    Size : 14,747,431,455 bytes
    
    Index : 2
    Name : Windows 10 Home
    Description : Windows 10 Home
    Size : 14,586,404,734 bytes
    
    Index : 3
    Name : Windows 10 Home Single Language
    Description : Windows 10 Home Single Language
    Size : 14,613,514,813 bytes
    
    Index : 4
    Name : Windows 10 Education
    Description : Windows 10 Education
    Size : 13,962,206,875 bytes
    
    The operation completed successfully.
    
    I:\x64\sources>dism /get-wiminfo /wimfile:install.esd /index:4
    
    Deployment Image Servicing and Management tool
    Version: 10.0.14393.0
    
    Details for image : install.esd
    
    Index : 4
    Name : Windows 10 Education
    Description : Windows 10 Education
    Size : 13,962,206,875 bytes
    WIM Bootable : No
    Architecture : x64
    Hal : <undefined>
    Version : 10.0.14393
    ServicePack Build : 0
    ServicePack Level : 0
    Edition : Education
    Installation : Client
    ProductType : WinNT
    ProductSuite : Terminal Server
    System Root : WINDOWS
    Directories : 19005
    Files : 103268
    Created : 7/16/2016 - 7:50:19 AM
    Modified : 8/2/2016 - 1:55:46 PM
    Languages :
            en-US (Default)
    
    The operation completed successfully.
    
    I:\x64\sources>
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  8.    08 Aug 2016 #168
    Join Date : Jun 2015
    Posts : 859
    Win 10 Home

    Quote Originally Posted by norman View Post
    Just run the Setup which checked my PC and found no problems. It then downloaded and run the setup but has stopped at this screen.

    Click image for larger version. 

Name:	Capture2.JPG 
Views:	6 
Size:	32.3 KB 
ID:	94897

    I have no idea what program is causing the problem and I assume the text and/or icon should be a hyperlink - they aren't. There seems no way out other than closing down the dialog. Clicking "Refresh" just shows the same dialog again. How do I find out what program it's complaining about?

    BTW I'm running a recent install from scratch and all programs have been installed since the install. None are exhibiting any problems.

    [Edit] Just exited the dialog and received the message "You can contact Microsoft support for help with error code 0xc1900209"

    Cheers,
    Norman
    presume manually uninstall is also linkless???
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  9.    08 Aug 2016 #169
    Join Date : Dec 2013
    Sydney, Nova Scotia, Canada
    Posts : 10,151
    Windows 10 IoT

    Quote Originally Posted by NavyLCDR View Post
    @alphanumeric, The current media creation tool does download Education version. This is from a dual 32/64-bit ISO file created with the Media Creation Tool on 8/2/16 at 1:56 PM:

    Click image for larger version. 

Name:	Capture1.JPG 
Views:	3 
Size:	61.0 KB 
ID:	94909

    Code:
    I:\x64\sources>dism /get-wiminfo /wimfile:install.esd
    
    Deployment Image Servicing and Management tool
    Version: 10.0.14393.0
    
    Details for image : install.esd
    
    Index : 1
    Name : Windows 10 Pro
    Description : Windows 10 Pro
    Size : 14,747,431,455 bytes
    
    Index : 2
    Name : Windows 10 Home
    Description : Windows 10 Home
    Size : 14,586,404,734 bytes
    
    Index : 3
    Name : Windows 10 Home Single Language
    Description : Windows 10 Home Single Language
    Size : 14,613,514,813 bytes
    
    Index : 4
    Name : Windows 10 Education
    Description : Windows 10 Education
    Size : 13,962,206,875 bytes
    
    The operation completed successfully.
    
    I:\x64\sources>dism /get-wiminfo /wimfile:install.esd /index:4
    
    Deployment Image Servicing and Management tool
    Version: 10.0.14393.0
    
    Details for image : install.esd
    
    Index : 4
    Name : Windows 10 Education
    Description : Windows 10 Education
    Size : 13,962,206,875 bytes
    WIM Bootable : No
    Architecture : x64
    Hal : <undefined>
    Version : 10.0.14393
    ServicePack Build : 0
    ServicePack Level : 0
    Edition : Education
    Installation : Client
    ProductType : WinNT
    ProductSuite : Terminal Server
    System Root : WINDOWS
    Directories : 19005
    Files : 103268
    Created : 7/16/2016 - 7:50:19 AM
    Modified : 8/2/2016 - 1:55:46 PM
    Languages :
            en-US (Default)
    
    The operation completed successfully.
    
    I:\x64\sources>
    Can you clean install education with that ISO though? And just so there is no confusion, could you post the link you used to do that download. That way I can get that same ISO to test it myself.
    The reason I ask, can you clean install Education is, as follows. My MSDN ISO is listed as being able to install Home or Pro. But I can also do a change key to upgrade to Education or Enterprise. No Internet connection needed and no prompt for install media. The extra features are just unlocked/installed from the files already there. That may be why its listed as you show?
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  10.    08 Aug 2016 #170
    Join Date : Aug 2015
    Posts : 43
    Microsoft Windows 10 Home 64-bit

    Quote Originally Posted by elbmek View Post
    presume manually uninstall is also linkless???
    Yes, no links active at all.
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