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  1.    06 Aug 2016 #91
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    I found another way to get it: https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/...update-history

    I was just curious what they posted for a changelog(by the way this):
    Updates for Windows 10 Version 1607
    August 2, 2016 — KB3176929 (OS Build 14393.10) This update includes quality improvements. No new operating system features are being introduced in this update. Key changes include:

    • Improved reliability of background tasks and extensions for Microsoft Edge.
    • Addressed licensing issue that prevents apps from activating.
    • Addressed issue that prevents changing display orientation after attaching a keyboard dock.
    • Addressed issue with scheduled update scans that are delayed during Connected Standby.
    • Addressed issue that sometimes prevent Extensible Application Markup Language (XAML) apps from receiving keyboard input.
    • Addressed issue with event logging that creates very large virtual allocations.
    • Addressed issues that cause high battery drain when a Windows 10 Mobile device is idle or the screen is off.
    • Addressed additional issues with Cortana, Microsoft Query and Microsoft Excel compatibility, and the Korean Input Method Editor (IME).

    For a complete list of affected files, see KB3176929.


    And noticed this button and clicked it(just for the screenshot):
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  2.    06 Aug 2016 #92
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    Quote Originally Posted by torrente2008 View Post
    With online update i beleive there is no windows.old
    Of course there is - otherwise you could not rollback within 10 days.
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  3.    06 Aug 2016 #93
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    Quote Originally Posted by NavyLCDR View Post
    My upgrade of a Pro system that was previously upgraded from Home attempted to do exactly the same thing. I noticed on the screen that gives you the choice of what to keep that it stated it could not keep all my apps and settings because I was upgrading to a different version of Windows. I cancelled that, and inserted a PID.txt file containing the generic Windows 10 Pro Product Key into the sources folder of my Windows 10 USB flash drive and ran setup again. Then instead of reading the Windows Home product key in bios, it reads the Windows 10 Pro product key in the pid.txt files and moves forward to upgrade to Pro.
    You can also just let it install Home, then do a change key and enter the Pro generic key, the same one in your PID.txt file. It will then upgrade to Pro and activate with the Pro Digital Entitlement. It just unlocks the Pro features. It's what I did the first time Windows did the switcharo on me.
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  4.    06 Aug 2016 #94
    Join Date : Jun 2015
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    Quote Originally Posted by NavyLCDR View Post
    My upgrade of a Pro system that was previously upgraded from Home attempted to do exactly the same thing. I noticed on the screen that gives you the choice of what to keep that it stated it could not keep all my apps and settings because I was upgrading to a different version of Windows. I cancelled that, and inserted a PID.txt file containing the generic Windows 10 Pro Product Key into the sources folder of my Windows 10 USB flash drive and ran setup again. Then instead of reading the Windows Home product key in bios, it reads the Windows 10 Pro product key in the pid.txt files and moves forward to upgrade to Pro.
    Thanks NavyLCDR, I will give that a try!!
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  5.    06 Aug 2016 #95
    Join Date : Jun 2015
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    Quote Originally Posted by Night Hawk View Post
    When mounting the iso and not booting live from removable media made up you would automatically be seeing the upgrade type install where the "Keep all files..." as well as "Go for updates" boxes are already found checked off. Minor items like apps for expansion cards if on a desktop may have to be reinstalled like the software not drivers however but main audio console launcher for the sound card has to be redone each time another build and now the update goes on.

    Nothing else generally will see any effect as the only files changed or added are with the main system files not things installed separately or any folders on the drive. And you still see the Windows.old folder created again regardless of the type of install.



    OUCH! Now when doing the intial 8 Home? to 10 upgrade were you running the previous version's Home or Pro edition regardless of the OEM key embedded? By default moving into 10 Pro from any previous Home edition wouldn't seem possible as far as the upgrade path goes and you wouldn't have seen the DE at the time. Had to ask that one.

    Here I took the 32bit 7 Home Premium laptop to first end up with the buggy upgrade to 10 Home and later the fresh 32bit install until not able to shrink the primary down on the old laptop with the OEM primary present. After having seen the first 64bit clean install go on I ended up wiping the drive for the second when going to replace that first 32bit install. That was last August when that took place until something let go in December. I won't get a chance to see how the upgrade into the RS1 would have gone now however since it would seem the graphics/display chip let go while the laptop otherwise seems to start up normally but nothing onscreen.

    The replacement laptop saw the iso mount and upgrade to update go as smoothly as with the three desktops. The 3rd desktop presented the message that I wouldn't be able to revert back to 7 on that once the update was on. No worries!
    Hello again Night Hawk,
    When I did my first upgrade, I was running 8.1 Pro and I updated to Win 10 Pro.
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  6.    06 Aug 2016 #96

    I have five computers. Three had the update available on windows update in settings. Two do not. One one of the two that do not (a Surface Pro 4), I am trying the option of hitting Learn More on the Windows update page and takes you to a page to download update assistant. Is doing the update with the update assistant the same as if I did it through windows update?

    Edit:

    It appears it is different. On the other PCs, I did not have to run through the setup such as the blue screen with options where it asks about privacy options such as to connect to a hotspot, etc... Using the upgrade assistant it did.

    It also resets the default Apps. So far, I think those are the difference in the different upgrades.
    Last edited by rinconmike; 06 Aug 2016 at 07:35.
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  7.    06 Aug 2016 #97
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    Quote Originally Posted by rinconmike View Post
    I have five computers. Three had the update available on windows update in settings. Two do not. One one of the two that do not (a Surface Pro 4), I am trying the option of hitting Learn More on the Windows update page and takes you to a page to download update assistant. Is doing the update with the update assistant the same as if I did it through windows update?

    Edit:

    It appears it is different. On the other PCs, I did not have to run through the setup such as the blue screen with options where it asks about privacy options such as to connect to a hotspot, etc... Using the upgrade assistant it did.

    It also resets the default Apps. So far, I think those are the difference in the different upgrades.
    As an SP4 Pro owner managed to get official update the day released....it turned out to be unusable....so took the "learn more option"
    This again was useless as three quarters of the way through the install it stated unsuccessful and ground to a halt .

    My advice would be to use Brinks link ISO in first post....have successfully installed on three computers this way including a Surface Pro 4.

    One thing I would emphasise although Brinks post does explain this....click on first link, then choose language after if W10 Pro.
    I inadvertently clicked on W10 single language which is for Windows Home.
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  8.    06 Aug 2016 #98
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    Windows 7 & 10

    Is the process automatic or do I need to babysit while it happens?
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  9.    06 Aug 2016 #99
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    Win 10 Home

    Quote Originally Posted by torrente2008 View Post
    With online update i beleive there is no windows.old
    there is, I have the folder
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  10.    06 Aug 2016 #100
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    Win 10 Home

    bug 3: went out with cam and took images, came home and tried to view from File Explorer - says I cant use built in Administrator to view, I have to create another account to view????? ERm, No, I wont. I am ON my main account and I demand to see my images in my account.

    Q: can I reverse process and go back to previous win 10.

    Edit its working again after a switch off and start up. There is something wrong with win 10 as I have had to do several reboots in the past 3-4 weeks to get it working properly.
    Last edited by elbmek; 06 Aug 2016 at 10:24.
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