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  1. Joined : Jul 2016
    Kent, WA
    Posts : 27
    windows 7
       09 Aug 2016 #21

    kipper said: View Post
    I found no difference between the assistive technologies or the upgrade via windows update...........
    Well, went ahead on your say so. From the web page activation, it worked just fine. Just started in is all. Took only an hour too, versus about 8 the other day but maybe there were heavy loads on $M the last deadline day.

    In any case looked just fine but did get the upgrade plus update.

    Had too much on the plate so I just rolled it back to my win7 and it worked clean as a whistle.

    Thanks much
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  2. Joined : Dec 2015
    Posts : 2,441
    Windows10
       10 Aug 2016 #22

    xbliss said: View Post
    How did you upgrade it? With an ISO loaded in Hyper V?
    What steps did you follow? Please outline.

    I need to do a VM as well. Its Win 8. Do I need to make it 8.1 before?

    More details:

    Windows 8 - 14.99 License Product key
    Never used before - Until last night before end of Free Win 10 DE.
    Used on Win 8 VM in Hyper V - created from the Win 8 ISO that was downloaded while buying the 14.99 Product Key.
    It wouldnt accept via Control Panel so used SLMGR to enter they key.

    So? How can/ should I proceed?

    I'd like for the Win 10 DE to be TIED to this Product Key and not the underlying HW/ OEM firmware/ HWID.
    Hence I used the Product Key inside the VM
    How can I ensure this DE is not attached to HWID but to the purchased Win 8 key?


    Boot to Win 8, get genuine ticket, boot to 10, insert ticket and get DE. 10 minute process.

    I had done this but it did not work.. I will try it again .. but please tell me WHICH Windowns to try it with?

    Please point specific OS release to use in each of the following steps:

    Source: Win 8 in VM - release? currently using the ISO from that download -
    Should this be upped to 8.1 for better chance? Use a different Source OS?

    Than add (In what order?) :
    + Accessibility Features?
    + GatherOSState.exe = Genuine Ticket

    Destination: Win 10 in VM - Which release?
    Or try to upgrade actual VM with ISO/DVD in Hyper V - Which release?

    I've done some 20 or so machines in few nights using GatherOSState .. some failed and most got done.. so please tell me the steps without missing a step/ specifics.. Thanks.
    You are over complicating things.

    Simple answer is upgrades from 7/8 to 10, or clean installs of 10 activated with a 7/8 key ONLY get digital licences tied to mobo not OLD key. Currently it seems there is an activation grace period and that will probably end soon (may even have done so).

    The new activation troubleshooter enables retail licences to be legally transferred to a new device BUT you cannot transfer from a VM to a physical machine or vice versa.
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  3. Joined : Jul 2015
    Posts : 6,887
    Windows 10 Pro
       10 Aug 2016 #23

    cereberus said: View Post
    You are over complicating things.
    Agreed. Very simply put it is the individual computer that gets upgraded to Windows 10 - not the Windows 7/8/8.1 product key.
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  4. Joined : Jun 2015
    Posts : 83
    Win 7 Ultimate
       10 Aug 2016 #24

    cereberus said: View Post
    You are over complicating things.

    Simple answer is upgrades from 7/8 to 10, or clean installs of 10 activated with a 7/8 key ONLY get digital licences tied to mobo not OLD key. Currently it seems there is an activation grace period and that will probably end soon (may even have done so).

    The new activation troubleshooter enables retail licences to be legally transferred to a new device BUT you cannot transfer from a VM to a physical machine or vice versa.
    Well, wasnt there a page where MS outlined that for: (Can you link me to that page? )
    1. OEM/ HW actived Pre Win 10 licenses > Win 10 DE = Tied to HW
    2. Retail/ Product key Pre Win 10 licenses > Transferrable Win 10 DE

    Or does that key also do a HWID based DE and for Transfer there is this new mechanism?

    What if I've already used a Type 1 machine to get an OEM based DE.
    Now how do I use a Type 2 Retail key to get another DE on same machine? Or do I have to use another machine/ VM? Thoughts/ Ideas?

    Also, how does a person responsible for Managing several machines & their Win 10 DEs (Home/ Family or SOHO/ SMB) link these DEs to his MS account?
    Does MS allow 1 to 1 or 1 to Many to manage DEs? How would one do this?

    Dont MS Email IDs expire if not used for X no of days?
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  5. Joined : Dec 2015
    Posts : 2,441
    Windows10
       10 Aug 2016 #25

    xbliss said: View Post
    Well, wasnt there a page where MS outlined that for: (Can you link me to that page? )
    1. OEM/ HW actived Pre Win 10 licenses > Win 10 DE = Tied to HW
    2. Retail/ Product key Pre Win 10 licenses > Transferrable Win 10 DE

    Or does that key also do a HWID based DE and for Transfer there is this new mechanism?

    What if I've already used a Type 1 machine to get an OEM based DE.
    Now how do I use a Type 2 Retail key to get another DE on same machine? Or do I have to use another machine/ VM? Thoughts/ Ideas?

    Also, how does a person responsible for Managing several machines & their Win 10 DEs (Home/ Family or SOHO/ SMB) link these DEs to his MS account?
    Does MS allow 1 to 1 or 1 to Many to manage DEs? How would one do this?

    Dont MS Email IDs expire if not used for X no of days?
    You really are making it complicated. A digital licence is tied to the mobo - end of story.

    With new version, you have ability to transfer a digital licence to a new mobo.

    This is only permitted if the original licence was retail, and you have installed latest version of windows. Linking it to the MSA is automatic usually.

    You can only have one digital licence per version e.g. one for home, one for pro. You cannot have two for home eg one for an oem original key and one for original retail key.

    If you install windows home a second time it activates automatically. Whether original digital licence is replaced if you use "change product key" using an original 7/8 key, or not, I do not know. In any case, the free upgrade period is ended, so that is no longer applicable (although it may still work until MS finally stop it).
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  6. Joined : Jun 2015
    Posts : 83
    Win 7 Ultimate
       10 Aug 2016 #26

    At risk of getting my wrist slapped, I can categorically state the activation servers are still activating old versions of the OS, as I have done it today. I had an 8.1 vm I was keeping for compatibility purposes, but as I have not needed it for months (since 10586 came out), I thought I would try it today, and it just worked.


    Well, since the "assistive window" is still open I'd like to leverage that, since on the last 2 days I was not able to get my VM's to get the Win 10 DE.

    (PS: MCT - Media Creation Tool)

    Am I? I just asked you how exactly you got the DE on the VM? That's all. Since you mentioned - please do share exact steps.

    I created 2 VMs (H/W Similar but maybe Hyper V creates Diff HWID??)
    - One Win 8 with Product key, One Win 10 from MCT Aug 2015

    Did you use the 2 stage: GatherStateOS.exe GenuineTicket method between 2 VMs?
    Or
    Update the same Win 8 VM to Win 10 (ISO attached to Hyper V VM)??
    Or
    Fresh Install Win 10 (newer MCT or Non MCT release e.g. MSDN ISO) on same VM?

    cereberus said: View Post
    You really are making it complicated. A digital licence is tied to the mobo - end of story.

    I already have a DE for my Surface Pro 3 Mobo.
    This is exactly why I am using a VM as I'd like to just get a DE for a purchased Win 8 Lic Product Key I had never used - Hence using inside a VM.

    With new version, you have ability to transfer a digital licence to a new mobo.

    So in the future, I could possibly use this Product key DE elsewhere or in a VM - preferably.

    This is only permitted if the original licence was retail, and you have installed latest version of windows. Linking it to the MSA is automatic usually.

    So, does my purchased product key count as Transferable or Not? Which latest version.. too many releases?
    I have not use a single MSA to link DEs so far as I was not clear on how it associates.


    You can only have one digital licence per version e.g. one for home, one for pro. You cannot have two for home eg one for an oem original key and one for original retail key.

    Why cant I have 2 separate DEs using 2 different Genuine Windows (OEM H/W) and Purchased Product Key?
    As long as I use different Hardware? Hence the VM.
    Can we not use a Purchased Product key for a VM? Who said thats not allowed?

    If you install windows home a second time it activates automatically. Whether original digital licence is replaced if you use "change product key" using an original 7/8 key, or not, I do not know. In any case, the free upgrade period is ended, so that is no longer applicable (although it may still work until MS finally stop it).
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  7. Joined : Jun 2015
    Posts : 83
    Win 7 Ultimate
       10 Aug 2016 #27

    NavyLCDR said: View Post
    Agreed. Very simply put it is the individual computer that gets upgraded to Windows 10 - not the Windows 7/8/8.1 product key.
    Ok. Got it. So, I have no choice but to do this on another machine (which I dont have) or use a VM, like Cerebrus did.

    I tried some steps on VM but it did not work so Im asking Cerebrus for the exact steps procedure he follow for VM DE?
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