Windows 10: Microsoft removes some policies from Windows 10 Pro

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  1.    01 Aug 2016 #71

    Mystere said: View Post
    I'm sorry. What about Windows 8 are you talking about? You mean the start menu? That's not really a change of course for them, as it still does exactly what the old start screen did, and the full-screen page is still available with continuum. Frankly, I like the old Windows 8 full-screen menu.
    Believe what you want. People complained and MS did make changes to Windows 8. With Windows 10 MS is trying their best to forget Windows 8 ever existed.
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  2.    01 Aug 2016 #72

    Win 10 works well, here, two instalations. Very little in Local Group Policy Editor is anything I'd care to tweak - no reason to.

    When I do run into something I want different - which is how I sometimes feel about memory compression "feature", I find a reg entry that will toggle the behavior.

    In principle though I'm with the majority: if the behavior CAN toggle, and there is no clear reason to block the toggle, the easier it is to do - say with Gpedit - the better.
    @Winuser: Love your portrait/icon dude
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  3.    01 Aug 2016 #73

    lx07 said: View Post
    According to the EULA all 10 Pro versions (either OEM or retail) have downgrade rights.
    No - the clause 7 only refers to oem licences. Retail licences do not have downgrade rights.
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  4.    01 Aug 2016 #74

    johnwerneken said: View Post
    @Winuser: Love your portrait/icon dude
    That's probably the closest I can get to keeping my mouth shut.
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  5.    01 Aug 2016 #75

    groze said: View Post
    Actually part of that sentence doesn't really make any logical sense. I am referring to the word installer. When would a person acquire a device from an installer?
    That is referring to system builder licences. Oem licences come in two types

    1) oem-slp (system licence preinstalled) which are used by majors like dell and hp etc. These activate automatically and do not need internet access.

    2) oem system builder licences. These are basically oem licences sold to system builders who sell pcs. Strictly these are not for sale to public, but MS turn a blind eye to this - the bulk of cheap oem licences on web come from this source. These require internet access like a retail licence.

    Installer just means the trade people who build pcs and install an OS before selling it to you.
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    Win 7 PRO x64, Win 10 Pro x64
       02 Aug 2016 #76

    alphanumeric said: View Post
    Where are you going to get your install media and product code from? Microsoft isn't going to give it to you. As far as I know, the OEM provides that, and only on select models. You likely have to request it during your purchase. I could very well be wrong, but that's my understanding of how it works.
    I bought a Thinkpad P50 and one of the options was win7 pro though downgrade rights of 10 pro I picked 10 pro though as I wanted 10 pre-loaded and could go to to 7 since the device supports it and the manufacture seems to allow it. If I can't I also have some other 7 keys lying around that are legal if worst comes to worst. Does the install media have to be from lenovo in this case or can I use an OEM 7 sp1 disk I have. Also does the key come from them or Microsoft?

    EDIT: looks like Lenovo has a 7 key in the bios ready to go if you order pro then downgrade yourself.
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  7.    02 Aug 2016 #77

    rvcjew said: View Post
    I bought a Thinkpad P50 and one of the options was win7 pro though downgrade rights of 10 pro I picked 10 pro though as I wanted 10 pre-loaded and could go to to 7 since the device supports it and the manufacture seems to allow it. If I can't I also have some other 7 keys lying around that are legal if worst comes to worst. Does the install media have to be from lenovo in this case or can I use an OEM 7 sp1 disk I have. Also does the key come from them or Microsoft?

    EDIT: looks like Lenovo has a 7 key in the bios ready to go if you order pro then downgrade yourself.
    Windows 7 does not store a key in the BIOS, there may an OEM Identifier for OEM-SLP activation, but there is no key there. To do an OEM-SLP install you need custom OEM install media. To use your normal non branded install media you need a valid product code to activate. It sounds like, to actually exercise your downgrade rights, you would do so when you order it by selecting Windows 7 as the installed OS.
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