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  1. Joined : Jun 2014
    Posts : 4,479
    Windows 10 Pro
       31 Jul 2016 #61

    Mystere said: View Post
    There's really not much to discuss. Microsoft is on the path they're on, and nothing you or I or anyone else can say will change that. It's not "if", it's what is happening. So arguing as if there is any choice in the matter is silly.
    Didn't some people say the same about Windows 8. There's a old saying, The squeaky wheel gets the grease. If enough people complain MS just might listen.
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  2. Joined : Jun 2015
    CA, Upland
    Posts : 61
    Win 7 PRO x64, Win 10 Pro x64
       01 Aug 2016 #62

    Having my old work laptop die on me (motherboard, not worth replacing) and ordering a P50 with Pro if adds start appearing on my startmenu ect. I think i'm going to take my downgrade rights to 7. Of course 4k with 7 on a 15 inch screen is a whole other can of worms entirely. If they do take out the registry edits I fear in the direction MS is headed.
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  3. Joined : Dec 2013
    Sydney, Nova Scotia, Canada
    Posts : 8,226
    Windows 10 IoT
       01 Aug 2016 #63

    You only get downgrade rights if that manufacturer offers it on that make and model. It's not an automatic thing just because you order Pro. Just in case you didn't know.
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  4.    01 Aug 2016 #64

    alphanumeric said: View Post
    You only get downgrade rights if that manufacturer offers it on that make and model. It's not an automatic thing just because you order Pro. Just in case you didn't know.
    According to the EULA all 10 Pro versions (either OEM or retail) have downgrade rights.
    7.***** Downgrade Rights. If you acquired a device from a manufacturer or installer with a Professional version of Windows preinstalled on it, you may use either a Windows 8.1 Pro or Windows 7 Professional version, but only for so long as Microsoft provides support for that earlier version as set forth in (aka.ms/windowslifecycle).
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  5. Joined : Oct 2014
    Posts : 1,542
    W7 32 bit, Linux Mint Xfce 18 64 bit
       01 Aug 2016 #65

    lx07 said: View Post
    According to the EULA all 10 Pro versions (either OEM or retail) have downgrade rights.
    Good luck getting a windows 7 sp1 or 8.x disk from Microsoft .
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  6. Joined : Sep 2014
    Posts : 2,923
    Windows 10 Pro
       01 Aug 2016 #66

    Winuser said: View Post
    Didn't some people say the same about Windows 8. There's a old saying, The squeaky wheel gets the grease. If enough people complain MS just might listen.
    I'm sorry. What about Windows 8 are you talking about? You mean the start menu? That's not really a change of course for them, as it still does exactly what the old start screen did, and the full-screen page is still available with continuum. Frankly, I like the old Windows 8 full-screen menu.
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  7. Joined : Sep 2014
    Posts : 2,923
    Windows 10 Pro
       01 Aug 2016 #67

    lx07 said: View Post
    According to the EULA all 10 Pro versions (either OEM or retail) have downgrade rights.
    I'm sorry, how do you read that into that text? It says quite clearly "If you acquired a device from a manufacturer or installer", that means an OEM version.
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  8. Joined : Dec 2013
    Sydney, Nova Scotia, Canada
    Posts : 8,226
    Windows 10 IoT
       01 Aug 2016 #68

    lx07 said: View Post
    According to the EULA all 10 Pro versions (either OEM or retail) have downgrade rights.
    Where are you going to get your install media and product code from? Microsoft isn't going to give it to you. As far as I know, the OEM provides that, and only on select models. You likely have to request it during your purchase. I could very well be wrong, but that's my understanding of how it works.
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  9. Joined : Oct 2014
    Posts : 1,542
    W7 32 bit, Linux Mint Xfce 18 64 bit
       01 Aug 2016 #69

    Mystere said: View Post
    I'm sorry, how do you read that into that text? It says quite clearly "If you acquired a device from a manufacturer or installer", that means an OEM version.
    Actually part of that sentence doesn't really make any logical sense. I am referring to the word installer. When would a person acquire a device from an installer?
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  10. Joined : Oct 2015
    Posts : 1,391
    Windows 10 Pro X64
       01 Aug 2016 #70

    Hi,

    When would a person acquire a device from an installer?
    When you'd want a machine for a specific purpose such as gaming perhaps ?
    No idea what "installer" means in legal mumbo jumbo though.

    Cheers,
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