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  1. Joined : Oct 2013
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    Windows 7
       30 Apr 2015 #31

    In parts you are right. But the modus operandi is quite different whether you operate with a touch screen or a mouse and keyboard. And for a desktop the touchscreen makes little sense. I have a laptop with a touchscreen. That touch has never been used.

    The single OS strategy makes sense for MS - after 35 years in operating system development I know what that implies. Whether it makes sense for the end user is another question. The modern UI settings - besides the fact that parts don't work - are an unnecessary level of indirection for a mouse user. I usually have to click thru more levels than with a true desktop UI - example Personalize. Try to make a high contrast theme with your own color settings in build 10074.
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  2. Joined : Oct 2014
    Posts : 1,540
    W7 32 bit, Linux Mint Xfce 18 64 bit
       01 May 2015 #32

    Mystere said: View Post
    UAC provides folder and registry virtualization, which allows apps that think they can write anywhere they want to function correctly, but instead of actually writing to your Windows or Program FIles directories, it writes to special folder locations in your profile, preventing those apps from otherwise gunking up your system folders.

    I read some information on UAC ( see below) . I don't know if that what you are talking about.

    I don't think Windows 7 home premium has this type of folder and registry virtualization you are talking about. I think that is more for pro and enterprise versions using group policy. I could be wrong.

    Is there any articles I could read further on what you are talking about that says UAC writes to a special folder?

    I am a really so I may have overlooked some things.

    UAC Processes and Interactions

    How UAC Works

    UAC Processes and Interactions
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  3. Joined : Oct 2014
    Posts : 403
    Windows 10 X64
       01 May 2015 #33

    hi guys,

    me too, never use UAC, do not need it.

    jeff
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  4. Joined : Dec 2013
    England
    Posts : 837
    Windows IP 15007 Windows 14393.693
       01 May 2015 #34

    I disable UAC and save few seconds it's pretty useless for me.
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  5. Joined : Feb 2015
    Bamberg Germany
    Posts : 12,889
    Microsoft Windows 10 Pro 64-bit 14393 Multiprocessor Free
       01 May 2015 #35

    OK you UAC "Haters" stay away from Linux where for every little change you need to give your admin password. Probably should also stay away from a Standard account in Windows too
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  6. Joined : May 2015
    Posts : 2
    Win 10 TP 10074
       01 May 2015 #36

    I help out a home based company that provides tech support - both hardware and software - for end users.

    The majority of issues that I help fix - malware, PUP, and viruses mostly - have happened to those who have mistakenly disabled UAC or do not run anti-virus/anti-malware programs.

    You really don't want to know how many hours I have given training to end users, like some of the supposed 'super users' I've read in this thread, who have disabled UAC and do not understand why it is there...all they want to do is 'get rid of that annoying pop-up every time they run a program'...


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  7. Joined : Sep 2014
    Posts : 2,923
    Windows 10 Pro
       01 May 2015 #37

    whs said: View Post
    In parts you are right. But the modus operandi is quite different whether you operate with a touch screen or a mouse and keyboard. And for a desktop the touchscreen makes little sense. I have a laptop with a touchscreen. That touch has never been used.

    The single OS strategy makes sense for MS - after 35 years in operating system development I know what that implies. Whether it makes sense for the end user is another question. The modern UI settings - besides the fact that parts don't work - are an unnecessary level of indirection for a mouse user. I usually have to click thru more levels than with a true desktop UI - example Personalize. Try to make a high contrast theme with your own color settings in build 10074.
    Touch is really a red herring.. The real benefit here is that the exact same application runs on all three devices. You don't need a special version of Word for phones, and Word for Tablets and Word for Desktops. The app just changes its UI to adapt to the screen size and input model you're using. After all, that's the only difference here (besides processor architecture).

    Universal apps can work on any CPU and on low-memory foot print devices or monster memory devices.

    The problem here is that this is a whole new OS really. It's still very immature. It needs time to "bake" before it can do everything that Win32 can do, but eventually Universal apps will have just as much power as desktop apps. At that point, Win32 can be phased out.
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  8. Joined : Sep 2014
    Posts : 2,923
    Windows 10 Pro
       01 May 2015 #38

    groze said: View Post
    I read some information on UAC ( see below) . I don't know if that what you are talking about.

    I don't think Windows 7 home premium has this type of folder and registry virtualization you are talking about. I think that is more for pro and enterprise versions using group policy. I could be wrong.

    Is there any articles I could read further on what you are talking about that says UAC writes to a special folder?

    I am a really so I may have overlooked some things.

    UAC Processes and Interactions

    How UAC Works

    UAC Processes and Interactions
    You missed the link on the How UAC Works page called UAC Architecture, which shows the Virtualization i'm talking about.
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  9. Joined : Feb 2015
    Bamberg Germany
    Posts : 12,889
    Microsoft Windows 10 Pro 64-bit 14393 Multiprocessor Free
       01 May 2015 #39

    Mystere,
    I have a question you could probably answer for me, In the end which will be more secure the desktop(or Win32) or the Universal apps?
    I was thinking the Universal because of the sandboxing. And with being able to resize the Universal apps they actually are no different now for the user experience than the software we have been using for years.
    Or if you already posted on this, just direct me there.
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  10. Joined : Jul 2014
    UK
    Posts : 16,426
    Windows 10
       01 May 2015 #40

    Are people that are getting constant UAC prompts getting them from win 10 or is this based on your last OS?

    I have mine just set to the default and it is very rare I see it come up (occasionally if installing s/w), could probably count on my fingers the number of times its popped up this year so far (this is win 8.1)
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