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  1. Joined : Nov 2013
    Idaho USA
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    OS X, Win 10
       30 Apr 2015 #21

    Mystere said: View Post
    Actually, it's the other way around. Anyone that actually knows what they're doing understands why UAC is so beneficial, and understands what UAC is doing for them, and would never consider running without it.

    Anyone that knows what they're doing knows how to work within the UAC framework to do what they need to do without much trouble.

    It's only the people that THINK they know what they're doing that find it to be a problem, because they are constantly having trouble they don't know how to solve. And rather than learn how to solve their problem, they'd rather just complain and turn it off.

    But hey, that's just my opinion.
    Have to say that is a good opinion. . .
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  2. Joined : Nov 2013
    Idaho USA
    Posts : 4,534
    OS X, Win 10
       30 Apr 2015 #22

    Ztruker said: View Post
    Sorry but that is pure BS. I do know what I'm doing and I do know how to fix most problems I run into and I don't need or want UAC to do so. Please stop taking the Personal out of Personal Computing. You have your likes and dislikes just as I and others do.
    Hmmmmmmmmmmm!. . ."touch a nerve. . .
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  3. Joined : Dec 2014
    Chicagoland
    Posts : 399
    Windows 10 Pro x64
       30 Apr 2015 #23

    Mystere said: View Post
    See, that's my point. You assume I was talking about security. I wasn't. UAC does a lot more than just security, and most people who claim to "know what they're doing" don't understand that.

    UAC is what helps many older applications run correctly and provides a great deal of the compatibility functions. UAC prevents poorly written apps from gunking up your Windows and Program files folders. UAC does so much for you that, if you just bothered to learn more about it... you would realize it's not the annoyance you think it is... and that the problems you face are easily solved by changing your behavior slightly.
    Well than that functionality should be separated. UAC prompts are the most useless annoyance of windows.

    You can turn it down with no prompt without turning it off.
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  4.    30 Apr 2015 #24

    Mystere has a point.
    Prime example: You run a theme patcher and UAC pops up "Are you sure you want to run a program from an Unknown Publisher", (which is probably written improperly), you click yes and everything seems okay til later you find out half your visual dll's have gone AWOL.
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  5. Joined : Dec 2014
    Chicagoland
    Posts : 399
    Windows 10 Pro x64
       30 Apr 2015 #25

    Edwin said: View Post
    Mystere has a point.
    Prime example: You run a theme patcher and UAC pops up "Are you sure you want to run a program from an Unknown Publisher", (which is probably written improperly), you click yes and everything seems okay til later you find out half your visual dll's have gone AWOL.
    And how did UAC help in your example? Not at all. You invariably start ignoring the constant UAC prompts and just click yes, so they serve absolutely no purpose.
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  6.    30 Apr 2015 #26

    Geneo said: View Post
    And how did UAC help in your example? Not at all. You invariably start ignoring the constant UAC prompts and just click yes, so they serve absolutely no purpose.
    That's my point, they don't necessarily protect you but they warn you.
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  7. Joined : Oct 2014
    Posts : 480
    Windows 10
       30 Apr 2015 #27

    Geneo said: View Post
    And how did UAC help in your example? Not at all. You invariably start ignoring the constant UAC prompts and just click yes, so they serve absolutely no purpose.
    That's probably why I go through Stop and Giveway signs, I invariably start ignoring them, so they serve absolutely serve no purpose.
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  8. Joined : Sep 2014
    Posts : 2,923
    Windows 10 Pro
       30 Apr 2015 #28

    groze said: View Post
    How does UAC prevent older applications from gunking windows 7 if you get a UAC prompt and click yes?
    How does UAC help older application run correctly?

    I already have a program not recommend by most people here that prompts for most registry changes.
    UAC provides folder and registry virtualization, which allows apps that think they can write anywhere they want to function correctly, but instead of actually writing to your Windows or Program FIles directories, it writes to special folder locations in your profile, preventing those apps from otherwise gunking up your system folders.

    This has nothing to do with a UAC prompt, in fact, those poorly written apps do NOT prompt for a UAC prompt.

    Simply put, if you are running apps that prompt for UAC all the time, then you are running broken apps. Refuse to use them until the author fixes them so they run properly as a standard user.
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  9. Joined : Oct 2013
    Posts : 1,962
    Windows 7
       30 Apr 2015 #29

    I don't have a problem with the UAC. It does not bother me. What does bother me is that my desktop would become an appendix of a tablet/phone Operating System. All those moves towards the settings are made for that - and that's not the only move into this direction. I think the 1 year W10 give-away is one that I will skip - although I generally like give-aways.
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  10. Joined : Sep 2014
    Posts : 2,923
    Windows 10 Pro
       30 Apr 2015 #30

    whs said: View Post
    I don't have a problem with the UAC. It does not bother me. What does bother me is that my desktop would become an appendix of a tablet/phone Operating System. All those moves towards the settings are made for that - and that's not the only move into this direction. I think the 1 year W10 give-away is one that I will skip - although I generally like give-aways.
    A computer is a computer, it doesn't matter if I can carry it in my pocket or it sits on my desk. There aren't going to be any more such things as "desktop OS's" or "Phone OS's" It's just an "OS".

    The computer in my phone is far more powerful than the desktop of a few years ago. So there's no reason why I can't plug my phone into a socket on my desktop and have it act like a desktop, unplug it and take it with me and use it as a mobile. Plug it into a "laptop" shell and use it as a mobile laptop. Already such devices have been made, and it won't be long before that reality will be commonplace.

    So if the same device can be a desktop, a tablet, a phone or laptop... How exactly can there be a Phone OS, and Desktop OS?
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