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  1. Joined : Oct 2013
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       28 Jun 2016 #1

    Microsoft Steps Back from the Cliff on Windows 10 Upgrades


    After months of mounting criticism, and just one month from the end of the free Windows 10 upgrade, Microsoft has finally seen the light: It will stop deliberately confusing and deceiving customers with the Windows 10 upgrade offer.

    “We started our journey with Windows 10 with a clear goal to move people from needing Windows to choosing Windows to loving Windows,” Microsoft executive vice president Terry Myerson explains in a prepared statement.. “Towards this goal, this week we’ll launch a new upgrade experience for millions of PCs around the world. The new experience has clearer options to upgrade now, choose a time, or decline the free offer. If the red-x is selected on this new dialog, it will dismiss the dialog box and we will notify the device again in a few days. We continue to recommend all of our customers upgrade to Windows 10 before the free upgrade offer expires on July 29. Thousands of engineers have been working on making Windows 10 the most secure version of Windows, helping to protect people from viruses, phishing, identity theft and more. We’d like our customers to upgrade and improve their experience with Windows and Microsoft.”

    So this is good news, obviously. But you’ll have to excuse me for being a bit underwhelmed by this change, given the late timing and, sadly, Microsoft’s history of behavior so far. As you must know, I’ve been extremely vocal about the firm’s ongoing deceptive Windows 10 upgrade practices. Practices which reached an incredible and inexcusable apex in May when Microsoft silently changed the Windows 10 upgrade advertisement to trigger the upgrade if the user closed the window...


    Read more: Microsoft Steps Back from the Cliff on Windows 10 Upgrades - Thurrott.com
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  2. Joined : Aug 2014
    Australia, Adelaide
    Posts : 1,394
    W7 Ultimate SP1 (64 bit), LM 18.1 MATE (64 bit), W10IP VM, W10 Home
       28 Jun 2016 #2

    The change is pretty much irrelevant, since the free upgrade offer is about to finish.
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  3. Joined : Jun 2014
    Posts : 4,469
    Windows 10 Pro
       28 Jun 2016 #3

    lehnerus2000 said: View Post
    The change is pretty much irrelevant, since the free upgrade offer is about to finish.
    I agree. Nothing like waiting till the very last minute.
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  4. Joined : Dec 2013
    Sydney, Nova Scotia, Canada
    Posts : 8,215
    Windows 10 IoT
       28 Jun 2016 #4

    Way too long in coming, IMHO.
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  5. Joined : Sep 2015
    Cosmos
    Posts : 82
    Windows 10 Home 64bit V1607
       28 Jun 2016 #5

    Definitely late... pressure has been building!
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  6. Joined : Oct 2013
    Penns Forrest
    Posts : 3,506
    Win_8.1-Pro, Win_10.1607-Pro, Mint_17.3
       28 Jun 2016 #6

    They hit their numbers and .... well, all is good in Redmond Land.

    Now, will they remove all of the appraiser and GWX stuff from machines - doubt it.
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  7. Joined : Oct 2014
    Posts : 91
    WIndows 10
       28 Jun 2016 #7

    From the Seattle Times:
    California resident Teri Goldstein sued Microsoft when their tech support would not fix issues with her travel agency business computer, which became unusable for days after automatically installing Windows 10.

    She was suing for lost wages and the cost of a new computer, and she won $10,000. Microsoft has dropped their appeal of the case, to — in their words — “avoid the expense of further litigation,” although they haven’t admitted any wrongdoing.
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  8. Joined : May 2015
    Posts : 112
       29 Jun 2016 #8

    I am interested in seeing the install numbers come the end of August/September. Some maybe wrong, but I think those who say folks will rollback to 7 after this is all over are probably correct. Not all, but I think you are going to see a bump downward.
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  9. Joined : Oct 2013
    Penns Forrest
    Posts : 3,506
    Win_8.1-Pro, Win_10.1607-Pro, Mint_17.3
       29 Jun 2016 #9

    MrBill said: View Post
    I am interested in seeing the install numbers come the end of August/September. Some maybe wrong, but I think those who say folks will rollback to 7 after this is all over are probably correct. Not all, but I think you are going to see a bump downward.
    It's not always clear how they count installs ...
    If you upgrade to Win10 that's +1,
    if you roll back, is that necessarily -1?

    Marketing would revolt against this - they live on numbers.
    See how well we're doing they say ... never mind the man behind the curtain ... there are 300 million Win10 installs (never mind the 100 million who rolled back). Numbers are examples only - I have no way of knowing how many rolled back.

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  10. Joined : May 2015
    Posts : 112
       29 Jun 2016 #10

    Slartybart said: View Post
    It's not always clear how they count installs ...
    If you upgrade to Win10 that's +1,
    if you roll back, is that necessarily -1?

    Marketing would revolt against this - they live on numbers.
    See how well we're doing they say ... never mind the man behind the curtain ... there are 300 million Win10 installs (never mind the 100 million who rolled back). Numbers are examples only - I have no way of knowing how many rolled back.

    Mr Sluggo
    Ideally netmarketshare and others should notice a blip around August/September if any do role back. I've seen lots of comments from folks indicating their game plan to roll back after the anniversary to avoid the nag screen again. Of course, if they are planning on using their old license for Windows 7 they maybe in for an ugly shock since Microsoft rolled those up to Windows 10 with the upgrade.

    Personally I'm on the fence. I think Windows 10 does a better job with my 8 core processor and the SSDs than Windows 7 did. However, Windows 7 definitely is mature, predictable, and everything I own software wise runs flawlessly on it.
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