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  1. AndreTen's Avatar
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       #70

    simrick said:
    MS have always had it turned on by default for all other OSs. The average user expects to be able to fall back to system restore when they mess up their system, just like they always have in the past. Changing the rules, and not telling anyone is just plain stupid. MS have enough damage control to do with all their other issues.
    Agree with this statement (again :))
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  2. magilla's Avatar
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       #71

    AndreTen said:
    Agree with this statement (again :))
    I think the issue is between a preview build and a completed build. The completed build should have a dialog box that asks you if you would like to turn on system restore. This has been the case in the past with Windows 7 and 8, I believe???? I know in my computers that have 8 and 7, and even the current completed version of Windows 10, I have the system restore feature activated. But I do not recall if it was activated by default or via a dialog box that asked me if I wanted to turn the feature on. Anyone recall?
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  3. simrick's Avatar
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       #72

    magilla said:
    I think the issue is between a preview build and a completed build. The completed build should have a dialog box that asks you if you would like to turn on system restore. This has been the case in the past with Windows 7 and 8, I believe???? I know in my computers that have 8 and 7, and even the current completed version of Windows 10, I have the system restore feature activated. But I do not recall if it was activated by default or via a dialog box that asked me if I wanted to turn the feature on. Anyone recall?
    When I upgraded 2 boxes from W8.0 to W8.1 the System Restore stayed *ON* by default, and, although the system restore points were deleted, I did not have to turn the function back on, nor was I advised to do so. And, THAT IS WHAT THE AVERAGE USER EXPECTS. Insider Preview or not, this is the final stage before Anniversary release, and if they want to test everything (like upgrading via Windows Update and not via an ISO), then they need to do this as well. Whoever made the call to leave System Restore off by default should be fired.
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  4. CountMike's Avatar
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       #73

    magilla said:
    I think the issue is between a preview build and a completed build. The completed build should have a dialog box that asks you if you would like to turn on system restore. This has been the case in the past with Windows 7 and 8, I believe???? I know in my computers that have 8 and 7, and even the current completed version of Windows 10, I have the system restore feature activated. But I do not recall if it was activated by default or via a dialog box that asked me if I wanted to turn the feature on. Anyone recall?
    Don't recall ever being asked that during installation but remember that I always changed size reserved to hold only 2 or 3 restore points as I was mostly short on disk space.
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  5. AndreTen's Avatar
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       #74

    magilla said:
    I think the issue is between a preview build and a completed build. The completed build should have a dialog box that asks you if you would like to turn on system restore. This has been the case in the past with Windows 7 and 8, I believe???? I know in my computers that have 8 and 7, and even the current completed version of Windows 10, I have the system restore feature activated. But I do not recall if it was activated by default or via a dialog box that asked me if I wanted to turn the feature on. Anyone recall?
    Well, I don't recall any dialog from Windows about System restore (in 7, 8 or 8.1).
    I also expect final version to have this option enabled. Most probably there is some kind of problem with upgrading complete system and re-enabling system restore after it has to be turned off.

    MS will solve this puzzle somehow, I'm sure about that.
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  6. sgage's Avatar
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       #75

    simrick said:
    MS have always had it turned on by default for all other OSs. The average user expects to be able to fall back to system restore when they mess up their system, just like they always have in the past. Changing the rules, and not telling anyone is just plain stupid. MS have enough damage control to do with all their other issues.
    I suspect the average user has never heard of System Restore. That said, yes, it has always been turned on in prior versions with a reasonable amount of space allocated. We'll see what happens with the general release of the Anniversary Update. With the original general release of Win10, was it turned on or off? I really don't remember, but then, I don't use System Restore.
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  7. AndreTen's Avatar
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       #76

    sgage said:
    I suspect the average user has never heard of System Restore. That said, yes, it has always been turned on in prior versions with a reasonable amount of space allocated. We'll see what happens with the general release of the Anniversary Update. With the original general release of Win10, was it turned on or off? I really don't remember, but then, I don't use System Restore.
    Just checked on my laptop and it was on. Can't say about size, because I transferred system on SSD and original partition with system restore is missing (yes, advance settings says: on, C: missing...) :)
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  8. CountMike's Avatar
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       #77

    Oh, I forgot another reason I always checked system restore in earlier windows versions, it was set for all disks and partitions but I was always running at least dual boot so system restore would screw other OSs up if left to it's own devices.
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       #78

    Wynona said:
    Now why would you say that, Robot! According to the Tinfoil Hats, Microsoft knows everything there is to know about us and our equipment, so why wouldn't they know the space allocation?
    Hardware/equipments have unique and fixed identifying numbers/codes embedded on them. Storage allocation is random.
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  10. magilla's Avatar
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       #79

    AndreTen said:
    Well, I don't recall any dialog from Windows about System restore (in 7, 8 or 8.1).
    I also expect final version to have this option enabled. Most probably there is some kind of problem with upgrading complete system and re-enabling system restore after it has to be turned off.

    MS will solve this puzzle somehow, I'm sure about that.
    I recall being asked, when updating a program or adding a program to the system, if I would like to create a system restore point. No one remembers that? In both 7 and 8?
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