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  1.    04 Jun 2016 #11
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    Quote Originally Posted by hTconeM9user View Post
    On bottom of laptop was a sticker with XP on it so the laptop was older than was sold for
    OK, I forgot about that, you are right. You had to pay for upgrades in the past....
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  2.    04 Jun 2016 #12
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    win 7 8 10

    Quote Originally Posted by Barman58 View Post
    Please be careful of what you say, statements supporting software piracy posted here are likely to get you banned permanently from the Designer Media Forums. We do not support any form of Software theft
    I thought the Smiley Face said it all
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  3.    04 Jun 2016 #13
    Join Date : Jan 2014
    Oak Ridge TN, USA
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    Windows 10 Pro x64

    I sure wish MS could clamp down on pirates. They steal from the people who put all of that time to create a great product for us.
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  4.    05 Jun 2016 #14
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    W7 32 bit, Linux Mint Xfce 18 64 bit

    They should do KMS activations differently, so it won't activate them and will keep the legit systems activated.

    I thought KMS activates legit systems every week automatically.

    As far a home user & pro user, how many time are you allowed to activate legit systems without having to phone Microsoft?
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  5.    05 Jun 2016 #15
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    Quote Originally Posted by groze View Post
    As far a home user & pro user, how many time are you allowed to activate legit systems without having to phone Microsoft?
    You cannot use the same key on different systems. If you have a retail key (not OEM) then you may uninstall Windows from one system and then install on another. This may be done about 3 times, I think, before you'd have to call Microsoft.
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  6.    05 Jun 2016 #16
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    7, 10TP

    I wonder, with the focus on (and the main revenue source from) corporate accounts, just what percentage of the overall revenue is from consumer market and what percentage are the illegally installed Windows copies compared to to genuine consumer installations? In other words, just how much of a problem we're talking about?
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  7.    05 Jun 2016 #17
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    10.4 Home 1709 x64

    People still steal Windows, when they can buy keys cheap everywhere, just like keys for steam games?
    I enjoy all my 10 Pro licences bought for $15, I liked 8 Pro bought for $30 from Microsoft store as well.
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  8.    05 Jun 2016 #18

    Hi there

    The much loved Technet was a source of Piracy though -- to a lesser extent the same happens with MSDN (although it's much more expensive and people aren't so likely to be in "Pirate mode" as subscribers on the whole tend to be professional I.T people).

    However a load of VL licences seem to find their way out into the wild at times . Perhaps Ms could (or should) link actual Subscribers to serials so people can get banned / fined etc.

    Using Geolocation or IP adresses is a silly way as there's about three quadrillion ways of "spoofing" those

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  9.    05 Jun 2016 #19

    Agreed jimbo,.
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  10.    05 Jun 2016 #20
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    Windows 10 Pro x64 FCU - XP/Vista/Win7/Win8.1 in VM for testing

    I'm sure there is a full paper trail with all of the VL licences. Both in Microsoft as to where the particular licences went, and within the various enterprise customers as to what exact system/User they were allocated.

    I doubt though that this sort of information would be freely posted in the event of the theft of these licences, and appearance for sale on-line. it is not in the interest of either Microsoft or the enterprise customer to air their dirty washing in public.

    I'm sure there are frank discussions in private on these incidents

    BTW the normal Phone Home requirement for KMS server based licensing was always set at about 90 days to allow for use away from the server for laptops. not sure if this has been reduced with the greater availability of fast internet access or how it will work on Windows 10 enterprise (KMS or Digital entitlement)
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