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  1.    10 Jun 2016 #51
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    Quote Originally Posted by hTconeM9user View Post
    Yes I agree with you there on need updates quicker for Edge Browser.
    Hopefully in time they will do as it becomes more used like IE did when it first came out
    What they should do is rely more on developer testing than insider testing with future updates to Edge. That way updates can be done faster and shipped out faster to the general public. Doing that might upset insiders but if MS can set the goals for Edge and reach them the product will become better faster. Only having an update a year is not going to cut it and Edge will just fail for the majority of users. MS needs to take more chances with Edge at this point to make it better and win users over.
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  2.    10 Jun 2016 #52

    Quote Originally Posted by BunnyJ View Post
    What they should do is rely more on developer testing than insider testing with future updates to Edge. That way updates can be done faster and shipped out faster to the general public. Doing that might upset insiders but if MS can set the goals for Edge and reach them the product will become better faster. Only having an update a year is not going to cut it and Edge will just fail for the majority of users. MS needs to take more chances with Edge at this point to make it better and win users over.

    Hi there
    actually although I usually agree with your posts in this case I disagree.

    Developers are better at testing whether something TECHNICALLY works but they often don't do things in the way actual users do --for example many websites have often totally unclear links and appalling Navigation. Same with a lot of application programs.

    A bog standard user can often "Break" something that a developer missed --since a developer might have the mindset that "nobody would click on that key" or try and use the program in a certain way.

    That's why Functional analysis and USER TESTING is still an important part of I.T - even if it causes more hassle for the technical developers.

    The Insider program - while probably used by more computer knowledgeable people than the average set of users is a good way to reach large numbers of people who aren't involved with the development and therefore will probably find defects that don't appear with things like "unit testing" etc.

    Cheers
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  3.    10 Jun 2016 #53
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    Quote Originally Posted by jimbo45 View Post
    Hi there
    actually although I usually agree with your posts in this case I disagree.

    Developers are better at testing whether something TECHNICALLY works but they often don't do things in the way actual users do --for example many websites have often totally unclear links and appalling Navigation. Same with a lot of application programs.

    A bog standard user can often "Break" something that a developer missed --since a developer might have the mindset that "nobody would click on that key" or try and use the program in a certain way.

    That's why Functional analysis and USER TESTING is still an important part of I.T - even if it causes more hassle for the technical developers.

    The Insider program - while probably used by more computer knowledgeable people than the average set of users is a good way to reach large numbers of people who aren't involved with the development and therefore will probably find defects that don't appear with things like "unit testing" etc.

    Cheers
    jimbo
    I don't know how many web developers actually test their sites with the insider version of Edge? When I didn't development programming, which is just about the same as website development, you were told to test everything and hit every button that a user would try. We at times had an independent testing unit try to break the product to make sure the user didn't encounter any issues.

    I'm sure MS has it's share of independent testers and a QA unit so they can find the bugs in Edge and they can still send versions to the insiders for them to test it out.

    MS can't keep the updates to an annual event. Edge will fail if the do that.
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  4.    10 Jun 2016 #54
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    Quote Originally Posted by BunnyJ View Post
    I don't know how many web developers actually test their sites with the insider version of Edge? When I didn't development programming, which is just about the same as website development, you were told to test everything and hit every button that a user would try. We at times had an independent testing unit try to break the product to make sure the user didn't encounter any issues.

    I'm sure MS has it's share of independent testers and a QA unit so they can find the bugs in Edge and they can still send versions to the insiders for them to test it out.

    MS can't keep the updates to an annual event. Edge will fail if the do that.
    Totally agree with you there I for one would love to see Edge come out quicker and would love to even try it in Beta form, as that is how if I remember rightly they used to bring out some of the IE Browsers, and left it up the user if they installed it or not.
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  5.    10 Jun 2016 #55
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    Quote Originally Posted by hTconeM9user View Post
    Totally agree with you there I for one would love to see Edge come out quicker and would love to even try it in Beta form, as that is how if I remember rightly they used to bring out some of the IE Browsers, and left it up the user if they installed it or not.
    In theory they could have two versions of Edge with 10.. the standard(stable) and the Beta with all of the update. That way they can update the beta on a faster schedule.. get it tested out by more people and let web developers have at it all at the same time.
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  6.    10 Jun 2016 #56
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    Quote Originally Posted by BunnyJ View Post
    In theory they could have two versions of Edge with 10.. the standard(stable) and the Beta with all of the update. That way they can update the beta on a faster schedule.. get it tested out by more people and let web developers have at it all at the same time.
    I totally agree. Beta testing has been used for years. It allowed a mass of users to find issues and make suggestions faster.
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  7.    10 Jun 2016 #57
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    Quote Originally Posted by gtspeck View Post
    I totally agree. Beta testing has been used for years. It allowed a mass of users to find issues and make suggestions faster.
    100% with you there
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  8.    10 Jun 2016 #58
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    The day MS removes IE from the operating system is the day I move on to Android or Linux.
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  9.    10 Jun 2016 #59
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    Quote Originally Posted by davidhk View Post
    The day MS removes IE from the operating system is the day I move on to Android or Linux.
    Won't happen anytime soon, there are so many products that integrate with IIS and IE it would absolutly cripple businesses to get rid of IE. Hell when they went to IE11 they had to introduce enterprise mode to allow businesses to continue to function.
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  10.    10 Jun 2016 #60
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    I'm fairly new to Windows 10 (few days) I tried Edge, but soon went back to IE11and pinned it!
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