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  1.    03 Jun 2016 #21
    Join Date : Jun 2015
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    Windows 8.1 Pro

    Finally upgraded to Windows 10, I personally like it a lot more than Windows 8.1 (minus the automatic updates and Cortana) and a very close second to that of Windows 7 in terms off overall OS usability.

    Games seems to run in par with the performance of Windows 7 which is slightly better than Windows 8.1 and reduces a lot micro FPS stutters found on Windows 8.1 with the same game and settings.

    The new Start Menu is very useful and most registry tweaks that worked with Windows 8.1 still works in Windows 10.

    Startup is about a few seconds slower than Window 8.1 on the same SSD and there seems to be a bot more services in Widows 10 when compared to Windows 8.1 however memory usage remains pretty much the same despite all the new features found on Windows 10.

    Overall I'm quite happy with my upgrade (from Windows 7) and will upgrading all my machines (both Windows 7 and Windows 8.1) to Windows 10 in next month.

    I intentionally waited this long to upgrade to Windows 10 so that all the drivers would be mature enough not to run into problems when upgrading my older machines with a fresh install.

    So far the halted upgrade to Windows 10 has worked very well on my 2010 laptop with all the drivers available for Windows 10 (through 3rd party not Windows Updates) except for the SATA driver in which I'm using a Windows 8.1 driver and have not ran into any problems thus far...
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  2.    03 Jun 2016 #22
    Join Date : Feb 2016
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    Windows 10 Home

    Interesting.
    My Samsung SSD works perfectly with windows 10. so its other components
    that are at issue.

    This is why I build my own as OEM, it gives me control over all components
    in my box.

    We've essentially been beta testers for the last year granted, but what do you expect
    for free?

    Now were going to see the anniversary edition, so I expect a lot of these bugs with
    drivers and installs SHOULD be solved. Lets see.

    Samsung:
    “The Drivers that we have on our website are not yet compatible to the latest version of Windows. What we usually recommend is to keep the current Windows version and we'll update you once the Windows 10 have no more issues on any Samsung laptops and computers or even monitors.”

    Sounds to me like a first chicken or egg excuse to me.
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  3.    03 Jun 2016 #23

    Quote Originally Posted by OilerNut View Post
    I really doubt the companies modify them much, if you extract the drivers you'll see they have the exact same date stamps and file sizes. It's just Nvidias way of not being held liable if something happens, gives them an out saying to talk to the company that made your PC/Notebook/Tablet etc.
    Well the biggest issue is the OEM certifies the drivers for their machines. So the ones available on their site are guaranteed to work and they will support. Drivers from the manufacturer may not be certified. I'm always went by the idea if under warranty go to OEM.

    here is a disclaimer from Nvidia site:As part of the NVIDIA Notebook Driver Program, this is a reference driver that can be installed on supported NVIDIA notebook GPUs. However, please note that your notebook original equipment manufacturer (OEM) provides certified drivers for your specific notebook on their website. NVIDIA recommends that you check with your notebook OEM about recommended software updates for your notebook. OEMs may not provide technical support for issues that arise from the use of this driver.
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  4.    04 Jun 2016 #24
    Join Date : Feb 2016
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    Windows 10 Home

    Quote Originally Posted by OilerNut View Post
    All of this is likely out of Samsung hands. All the components are usually 3rd party. Like most have an intel chipset, realtek sound card, nvidia/amd/intel video card, perhaps marvell sata chipset too. These 3rd parties need to release the drivers not Samsung.
    I have all those components in two other boxes running win 10, they work fine.
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  5.    04 Jun 2016 #25
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    Windows 10 Home

    Quote Originally Posted by waltc View Post
    Yes, whenever a company asks customers not to upgrade to a particular OS version it has nothing to do with the OS and everything to do with the hardware company being far behind the curve in creating drivers for its products that support the new OS version, whatever it may be. It is decidedly not up to Microsoft to create drivers for the hardware other companies manufacture and sell. It took almost a year from the Windows 10 trial Microsoft shipped IIRC for Samsung to create a Win10-compatible version of Magician for my EVO 850 that supported Samsung's SSD Rapid Mode. Rapid Mode works now in all versions of Win10 I've used, but I don't think anyone really needs it--all it does is use a large pool of system ram to cache the drive--denying it to applications or games that may ask for it. It allows the running of really, really fast benchmarks, but in actual practice the drives run no faster than they do with with Rapid Mode disabled (disabled is the default setting anyway.) Unless you have 16GB's or more of ram installed I wouldn't even try it temporarily. Some companies are simply better than others at creating OS drivers for the hardware they sell--Samsung has enormous room for improvement.
    I think the problem is deeper.
    Samsung wants to sell new devices.
    If they allow you to upgrade easily, what incentive do they have
    to get you to buy a new system?
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  6.    04 Jun 2016 #26
    Join Date : Apr 2016
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    windows 10 pro

    its all bull i have a samsung laptop i have no issues it installed perfectly
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  7.    04 Jun 2016 #27
    Join Date : Feb 2016
    Maribor, Slovenia
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    Windows 10 (Pro and Insider Pro)

    Quote Originally Posted by msny View Post
    I think the problem is deeper.
    Samsung wants to sell new devices.
    If they allow you to upgrade easily, what incentive do they have
    to get you to buy a new system?
    On the contrary! Problem is very probably quite simple. Like it was explained in The Register (or some of other newspaper). Techs have some technical problems that they were unable to solve and they recommended not to upgrade. Nothing to do with company policy.

    If I remember correctly, much the same happened to HP, but in early Win 10 days.
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  8.    05 Jun 2016 #28
    Join Date : Sep 2014
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    7, 10TP

    I never understood the need to "upgrade" the OS on an existing device. Especially if the manufacturer does not fully support the said OS.
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  9.    05 Jun 2016 #29
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    Quote Originally Posted by msny View Post
    I think the problem is deeper.
    Samsung wants to sell new devices.
    If they allow you to upgrade easily, what incentive do they have
    to get you to buy a new system?
    I also don't understand the need to buy a new device just because it's available. They make new devices all the time, how often one is supposed to change them?
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  10.    05 Jun 2016 #30
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    Windows 10 Home

    Quote Originally Posted by AndreTen View Post
    On the contrary! Problem is very probably quite simple. Like it was explained in The Register (or some of other newspaper). Techs have some technical problems that they were unable to solve and they recommended not to upgrade. Nothing to do with company policy.

    If I remember correctly, much the same happened to HP, but in early Win 10 days.
    Technical issues only come about because of incompatible hardware.
    Yet we know, windows 10 is compatible with thousands of componets
    Samsung refuses to support.

    How many version of windows has there been, and in each one, MS
    has given vendors plenty of time to make it right. So it's close to 1 year
    plus many months to prepare.

    Samsung has failed to do so, so it make the case that they want to sell
    new stuff that is compatible going forward leaving current customers
    to figure it out themselves.
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