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  1.    07 Jun 2016 #251
    Join Date : Jan 2014
    Oak Ridge TN, USA
    Posts : 24,523
    Windows 10 Pro x64

    Quote Originally Posted by Edwin View Post
    I think Leo nailed it when he speculated that MS truly believes that Windows 10 is the best thing since 'sliced bread' for all of humanity!
    and...
    they're hell bent for leather to not support numerous operating systems asap!
    And they need to do that in order to cut costs and justify the reason the gave away so many upgrades of 10 in the first place.
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  2.    07 Jun 2016 #252
    Join Date : Dec 2013
    Sydney, Nova Scotia, Canada
    Posts : 10,238
    Windows 10 IoT

    Windows 7 has some serous issues with Windows update at the moment. Accidentally on purpose? I did a clean install of 7 Ultimate with SP1, ran check for updates manually, and it was over 24 hours sitting on the scanning checking for updates screen. This was with a wired internet connection. No third party antivirus etc programs installed. Just the stock install from my MSDN ISO. In the past I wouldn't even be done with my usual settings tweaks before I'd be prompted to reboot to finish installing updates. The GWX App was one of the first updates installed. I haven't been nagged to upgrade yet though. I haven't launched it manually yet either.
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  3.    07 Jun 2016 #253
    Join Date : Oct 2014
    Posts : 1,552
    W7 32 bit, Linux Mint Xfce 18 64 bit

    Quote Originally Posted by alphanumeric View Post
    Windows 7 has some serous issues with Windows update at the moment. Accidentally on purpose? I did a clean install of 7 Ultimate with SP1, ran check for updates manually, and it was over 24 hours sitting on the scanning checking for updates screen. This was with a wired internet connection. No third party antivirus etc programs installed. Just the stock install from my MSDN ISO. In the past I wouldn't even be done with my usual settings tweaks before I'd be prompted to reboot to finish installing updates. The GWX App was one of the first updates installed. I haven't been nagged to upgrade yet though. I haven't launched it manually yet either.

    My test went a little different of installing windows 7 sp1 32 bit, I found a copy I saved from digital river. Here is what I did. I may of missed a few steps.
    I installed Windows 7 32 bit.
    Installed some needed drivers.
    Choose never to install updates.
    Activated windows 7 32 bit.
    Blocked windows 10 install using never10 from grc

    Installed MSE from Microsoft
    Enabled driver updated from windows update
    Then I downloaded & Installed I.E. 11
    Then I installed the pre-roll up update
    Then I installed the roll-up update
    Then I downloaded Pre-rollup & rollup package (the roll-up will change the windows update setting to automatic)
    Change the update setting to choose whether to downloaded & install them & also unchecked get recommend update the same way I receive important updates.
    Then I went through the updates after the roll-up & installed the ones I wanted & did it again after those were installed. I also selected some optional updates that I wanted. Installed all my extra software. Re-checked the windows update setting, it stayed but it still could change depended on what updates you select.
    Then I backed up my system.

    Note, during the last part of the updates, you will get some driver updates from windows update. Total time about 4 hours for everything instead of all day. Note, you will need to I.E. run as administrator to install windows update catalog control, so you can download the roll-up patch & update. I.E. 11 you can download using another browser if you want.
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  4.    07 Jun 2016 #254
    Join Date : May 2016
    Posts : 256
    Windows 10

    Quote Originally Posted by alphanumeric View Post
    Windows 7 has some serous issues with Windows update at the moment. Accidentally on purpose? I did a clean install of 7 Ultimate with SP1, ran check for updates manually, and it was over 24 hours sitting on the scanning checking for updates screen. This was with a wired internet connection. No third party antivirus etc programs installed. Just the stock install from my MSDN ISO. In the past I wouldn't even be done with my usual settings tweaks before I'd be prompted to reboot to finish installing updates. The GWX App was one of the first updates installed. I haven't been nagged to upgrade yet though. I haven't launched it manually yet either.
    Yeah Windows Update has been messed up for awhile but if you manually install the latest Windows Update client it functions fine, https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3138612
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  5.    07 Jun 2016 #255
    Join Date : Dec 2013
    Sydney, Nova Scotia, Canada
    Posts : 10,238
    Windows 10 IoT

    Quote Originally Posted by OilerNut View Post
    Yeah Windows Update has been messed up for awhile but if you manually install the latest Windows Update client it functions fine, https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3138612
    The update client installed fairly quickly, after that though things just ground to a halt. I went with what the average Joe would do so I could see for myself if all the reports were true. The only things I installed manually were MSE and IE 11. At some point I'm going to turn it on and just let it run to see how long it takes before I'm prompted to upgrade to Windows 10. Same thing I did already running 8.1. I have some other stuff on the go at the moment so it sitting idle and turned off at the moment.
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  6.    09 Jun 2016 #256
    Join Date : Aug 2015
    Posts : 32
    Windows XP

    In the last two days I have had 3 friends call me complaining about a Windows 10 update without them asking or authorizing it. All 3 said they had left the computer on overnight and the next morning they were presented with the Welcome to Windows 10 screen. All 3 were mad as heck wondering how MS could do that without their permission. We got them rolled back, but it is hapening. None are really computer nerds so not really sure exactly what the chain of events was but all three said they didn't do anything other than leave the computer on.
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  7.    09 Jun 2016 #257
    Join Date : Dec 2013
    Sydney, Nova Scotia, Canada
    Posts : 10,238
    Windows 10 IoT

    I believe, if you don't do anything, if you don't actually decline the offer, it will do it on the date and time scheduled. I'd have to go back and read over everything I did to sort it out. I've lost track of all the ins and outs.
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  8.    09 Jun 2016 #258

    I'm friends with a local computer shop owner here in Mexico. Yesterday we were interrupted by an upset phone caller who had bought a Windows 8.1 computer from him, and woke up that morning to discover Windows 10.

    They're even doing it in Mexico!
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  9.    09 Jun 2016 #259
    Join Date : Oct 2013
    Newport, South Wales, UK
    Posts : 1,706
    Windows 10 Pro x64 FCU - XP/Vista/Win7/Win8.1 in VM for testing

    Yep people just click first think later - even in Mexico
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  10.    10 Jun 2016 #260
    Join Date : Dec 2013
    Sydney, Nova Scotia, Canada
    Posts : 10,238
    Windows 10 IoT

    I clicked the Red X in the new GWX app and immediately got a second Window saying "Your All set! Your free Windows upgrade is scheduled for, ........." With a click here to cancel option.

    Click image for larger version. 

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    It told me what clicking the red X did, and what will happen if I close this second window. It will upgrade on the date shown. If you don't take the time to read what is shown, its your own fault as to what happens next.
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