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  1.    02 Jun 2016 #151
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    Quote Originally Posted by alphanumeric View Post
    It's started its nag screens all over again from the beginning. I rebooted and opened Windows update and got the same screen I posted here, How MSFT's tricky new Windows 10 pop-up deceives you into upgrading The last one showing "Upgrade to Windows 10" "Start installing.....". This is getting really ridicules.
    Cheers
    That seems crazy that each time you reboot (and possibly when auto update runs?) it tries to install 10 again after its been declined once already
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  2.    02 Jun 2016 #152
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    Quote Originally Posted by alphanumeric View Post
    It's started its nag screens all over again from the beginning. I rebooted and opened Windows update and got the same screen I posted here, How MSFT's tricky new Windows 10 pop-up deceives you into upgrading The last one showing "Upgrade to Windows 10" "Start installing.....". This is getting really ridicules.
    Yep. MS won't take NO for an answer.....
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  3.    02 Jun 2016 #153
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    Windows 10 Pro

    Quote Originally Posted by alphanumeric View Post
    Well that didn't take long, ran Windows update and got this,

    Attachment 82912

    Sorry about the picture quality, camera was acting weird. Should have used the snipping tool.

    Update history shows Upgrade to Windows 10 , 2 canceled entries and one failed? Not sure what is going on. I declined it again. If it's going to try and install on every run of Windows update that's just ludicrous.
    I bet if you left it alone it will time out and move to next stage of installing. My friend never done one thing to start the Windows 10 upgrade on his shop computer and his laptop. They just automatically installed without any intervention from him. Lucky for him the upgrade went smooth and correct.
    I am curious if anyone else woke up to find Windows 10 installed on their system without them touching a thing.
    Thanks for the testing.

    Cheers
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  4.    02 Jun 2016 #154
    Join Date : Dec 2013
    Sydney, Nova Scotia, Canada
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    Windows 10 IoT

    Quote Originally Posted by Scramjet View Post
    I bet if you left it alone it will time out and move to next stage of installing. My friend never done one thing to start the Windows 10 upgrade on his shop computer and his laptop. They just automatically installed without any intervention from him. Lucky for him the upgrade went smooth and correct.
    I am curious if anyone else woke up to find Windows 10 installed on their system without them touching a thing.
    Thanks for the testing.

    Cheers
    From what I've seen and done, that can't happen. The upgrade can start without user intervention, but will not finish unless you click at least one "accept" button. You have to agree to the EULA for it to finish. Refuse and it rolls back. People that are claiming it fully installed completely on its own are, IMHO, misinformed and or confused about what really happened. Until proven otherwise that's my opinion on that subject. I just don't/didn't see it happen. I'm still testing though. If I determine otherwise I'll be more than happy to eat my words.

    If anybody has a spare PC to do their own testing it would be great. A VM might work too, I just like using real hardware. I can just leave that one PC running too.
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  5.    02 Jun 2016 #155

    Quote Originally Posted by alphanumeric View Post
    From what I've seen and done, that can't happen. The upgrade can start without user intervention, but will not finish unless you click at least one "accept" button. You have to agree to the EULA for it to finish. Refuse and it rolls back. People that are claiming it fully installed completely on its own are, IMHO, misinformed and or confused about what really happened. Until proven otherwise that's my opinion on that subject. I just don't/didn't see it happen. I'm still testing though. If I determine otherwise I'll be more than happy to eat my words.

    If anybody has a spare PC to do their own testing it would be great. A VM might work too, I just like using real hardware. I can just leave that one PC running too.
    Agreed, can't see windows installing without explicitly accepting the EULA, other than with an unattend.xml answer file - does those installations perhaps have such? That could explain the auto-upgrade but if so, that is devious...
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  6.    02 Jun 2016 #156
    Join Date : Feb 2015
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    Windows 10 Pro

    Well the only thing i can say is I certainly believe my friend when he said that because his shop was closed the weekend it happened and he was totally surprised to see it on his screen and he didn't touch anything until i arrived. It was fully installed when I looked at it. Also he would not have upgraded his laptop because his GPS program would not work with Windows 10. He depends on the laptop because he is involved in Air Search and Rescue. I sure hope you or someone else can verify here that it did happen to them lately. My friend would never attempt to install a new operating system on his own. That's why he waits on me to do it to be sure it's done properly.
    Maybe someone here who got a extra system to play with can let it just stay on and connected to the internet and see what happens over several days without intervention.
    Keep us posted on your results.

    Cheers
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  7.    02 Jun 2016 #157

    Folks, too many people on too many threads and forums are claiming that their computers completed the upgrade to 10 without their knowledge. MS must have found some way to get it through or at least to trick people into agreeing.
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  8.    02 Jun 2016 #158
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    Windows 10 IoT

    People are saying it happened, I haven't been able to replicate it as of yet. The closest I have gotten as far as it doing it in the background, was the "Welcome to Windows 10" followed by the "Here is the legal stuff" screen. I had to click Next to get the accept decline option. It did the upgrade at 11 PM and I didn't look at that PC until 6 AM the next morning. It was waiting for me to click next.
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  9.    02 Jun 2016 #159
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    Microsoft makes blocking Win 10 'Recommended' update near impossible


    Microsoft makes blocking Windows 10 'Recommended' update near impossible
    Microsoft's push to update existing Windows 7 and 8.1 users is now becoming a shove, according to a new report.

    Microsoft has taken another step toward making the process of opting out of the automatic Windows 10 update even more convoluted and difficult, according to a new report.

    I blogged just recently that Microsoft seemingly was clarifying its murky Windows 10 update process by adding an option to cancel the Windows 10 update to its dialog box prompt. Shortly after I wrote that, it came to light that Microsoft also quietly had changed the behavior of that prompt by changing the behavior of clicking on the red X -- which normally cancels an operation -- to signifying acceptance of the Windows 10 update.

    But it seems the company is now going a step further and is removing the option to cancel the Windows 10 update from the dialog box prompt altogether, as reported on June 1 by The Register.

    Instead of advising users they can cancel, reschedule or update immediately to Windows 10, the dialog box in the screen shot on The Register now advises users they can reschedule or start the update immediately. The Register reports that there's no more cancel option and no more Red X on the original prompt at all.
    Read more: http://www.zdnet.com/article/microso...ssible-report/
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  10.    02 Jun 2016 #160
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    Windows 10

    Quote Originally Posted by alphanumeric View Post
    If all you saw was the first screen I posted, and immediately shut down your PC, being scared to click next. I guess those people would assume it had actually fully installed? If you actually click next though you will see that it isn't done yet. Your not past the point of no return.
    Actually there is no "Point of no return".
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