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  1.    18 Apr 2015 #251

    Quote Originally Posted by Kari View Post
    I would try a clean install instead, creating the 10049 ISO from the ESD file.
    Thought you might say that. :-) I might have to give that a go. Now I've got boot problems with 10041.

    It keeps booting, then, when I go to open a browser, it just freezes. The little blue ring stops going round, nothing in the browser, or on the task bar, works
    Hard reboot seems the only way to deal with it. It took 5 attempts this morning before I finally got going.
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  2.    18 Apr 2015 #252
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    Quote Originally Posted by Charlie View Post
    I got them just now too. I see what Mystere is saying about they are named March update. That just means they are for a build that came out a month ago in march. I would like the April update and build for fast ring please.
    Attachment 16950

    Ok, it's an update for an update. No wonder this build is so messy.
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  3.    18 Apr 2015 #253
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    Quote Originally Posted by johnwillyums View Post
    Thought you might say that. :-) I might have to give that a go. Now I've got boot problems with 10041.

    It keeps booting, then, when I go to open a browser, it just freezes. The little blue ring stops going round, nothing in the browser, or on the task bar, works
    Hard reboot seems the only way to deal with it. It took 5 attempts this morning before I finally got going.
    I really would forget those issues and continue with an ISO.

    I am and especially have been a real in-place upgrade advocate,have been trying to explain how a well and correctly done in-place upgrade still has it's purpose, why clean install is not always the best alternative. Of course the Windows and computers have changed since I wrote this over 5 years ago but my points in that post are still valid. For instance, I have always wondered this clear paradox of some experienced geeks telling post after post how a clean install is so much better, how they would never use an in-place upgrade but at the same time they post elsewhere about the benefits of a repair install in order to solve various Windows issues. As you know, a repair install is nothing else but an in-place upgrade using the same Windows version and edition. If according to these geeks the in-place upgrade should never be used, why is it that the repair install is good?

    Anyway, about in-place upgrade: as I am an advocate of it I have even shown that you can in-place upgrade your Windows XP to Windows 10 without losing your installed software and most of the settings: Solved In-place upgrade - XP to 10 without losing the apps - Windows 10 Forums

    Windows 10 is a good example about what in-place upgrade is when it works. You install one build, then in-place upgrade it over Windows Update using the electronic software delivery (distribution) file format to get get the upgrade. But at the same time Windows 10 is also a good example about scenarios and situations when the in-place simply does not work. I would never wait hours about an upgrade to finish and when it fails, try second and third time. No way! I simply crab the ESD, make an ISO and try once the in-place using it and when any issues, backup my stuff and do a clean install.

    In many of these horror stories we have read here it is obvious that a clean install and re-installing all software had taken only fraction of the time the user has already spent for failing upgrades.

    Long rant, my point shortly: Make the ISO, try the upgrade, if not working backup your personal data and do a clean inst all.

    Kari
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  4.    18 Apr 2015 #254
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    Kari your right(at least in my case). I can't use windows update to get it get any build or update(Microsoft has made it impossible for metered connections) as I'm using pre-paid mobile broadband, so I can't even do the ESD trick, but the MEGA ISO downloads have proven clean(checked with Defender, MRT, and Malwarebytes) and the in place upgrade has kept everything from Windows 7 up to build 10049. I have found that mounting the ISO and using setup to be the fastest and most reliable method(after testing different methods with and without manufacturers windows 8 drivers).
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  5.    18 Apr 2015 #255
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    I went back to build 10056, 10049 was too buggy.
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  6.    18 Apr 2015 #256

    Thanks for your thoughts Kari. I've found several sites with the ISO download.
    I'll give it a try after the weekend.

    Cheers, John
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  7.    18 Apr 2015 #257
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gary View Post
    I went back to build 10056, 10049 was too buggy.
    That's weird. It should be the other way around.

    Do you see the other computer/network devices in 10056?


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  8.    18 Apr 2015 #258
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    Quote Originally Posted by badrobot View Post
    That's weird. It should be the other way around.

    Do you see the other computer/network devices in 10056?

    Attachment 16992
    Not necessarily, I had many things in 10049 that were glitchy or not fully functional and worked better in 10051 and better still in 10056.
    I have all my network devices listed.
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  9.    18 Apr 2015 #259
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    Quote Originally Posted by Edwin View Post
    Not necessarily, I had many things in 10049 that were glitchy or not fully functional and worked better in 10051 and better still in 10056.
    I have all my network devices listed.
    I didn't get myself too attached with 10056. One reason is the network issue and it feels like it's half-done.
    I already wiped it out last night to test the "slow bug" on 10049 which in my opinion does not really exists. Got everything done from 10041-10049 in less than an hour.
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  10.    18 Apr 2015 #260
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cliff S View Post
    ... as I'm using pre-paid mobile broadband, so I can't even do the ESD trick, but the MEGA ISO downloads have proven clean(checked with Defender, MRT, and Malwarebytes) and the in place upgrade has kept everything from Windows 7 up to build 10049. I have found that mounting the ISO and using setup to be the fastest and most reliable method(after testing different methods with and without manufacturers windows 8 drivers).
    Quote Originally Posted by johnwillyums View Post
    Thanks for your thoughts Kari. I've found several sites with the ISO download.
    I'll give it a try after the weekend.
    In case you also need the 10041: check the end of this tutorial to find a complete list of Build 10041 ESD download links, official links directly from Microsoft: ESD to ISO - Create Bootable ISO from Windows 10 ESD File - Windows 10 Forums

    Download the ESD of your choice, use the tool in the tutorial to create the ISO. Especially when in metered connections as you Cliff, the ESD download is depending on bit version and language about 20% smaller download than the ISO, it makes sense to download the smaller file and use it to create the bigger one .

    When done, let the Windows Update only download the 10049 ESD file but when it starts installing, copy the ESD to a safe location and let the upgrade fail. Make the 10049 ISO and do a clean install with it.
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