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  1.    13 May 2016 #11
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    Well looking at the slides again, it is required for certain features like device health, but they do say TPM 2.0 is a minimum requirement for anniversary addition, though it does sound like maybe this might be for new sku. The language is kind of contradictory.

    Here is some more from last year - not new news I guess:

    http://www.uefi.org/sites/default/fi...SecureBoot.pdf

    and a little more clear - no need to worry. Looks like it is only required if firmware supports it or the device is 1 year past RTM.
    Last edited by Geneo; 13 May 2016 at 22:21.
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  2.    13 May 2016 #12
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    If you don't read the exception carefully, you might think it says it doesn't apply to OEM's, but in fact it ONLY applies to OEM's. The exception is only for OEM's with specific requirements.

    This is nothing more than a requirement to get the "Designed for Windows" logo for OEM's. If you build your own system, it doesn't apply to you.

    This is not a case of the software not working on systems without TPM's, it's a case that MS won't allow you to have the logo if you don't have one.
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  3.    13 May 2016 #13
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mystere View Post
    If you don't read the exception carefully, you might think it says it doesn't apply to OEM's, but in fact it ONLY applies to OEM's. The exception is only for OEM's with specific requirements.

    This is nothing more than a requirement to get the "Designed for Windows" logo for OEM's. If you build your own system, it doesn't apply to you.

    This is not a case of the software not working on systems without TPM's, it's a case that MS won't allow you to have the logo if you don't have one.
    Can I understand this then, it's just for some kind of seal then(Germans love those approval seals, on everything, by the way, right Frank?)
    I like the idea, personally, that my next PC will be even more secure(and with this implemented hopefully the 3rd party software).
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  4.    13 May 2016 #14
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mystere View Post
    If you don't read the exception carefully, you might think it says it doesn't apply to OEM's, but in fact it ONLY applies to OEM's. The exception is only for OEM's with specific requirements.
    Right, that is what I meant by it was sorta contradictory in the way it was worded. But last years presentation link I posted makes it pretty clear it only applies to PC's that either already support TPM in firmware, or PCs newer than 1 year past Windows 10 RTM.

    I am not sure whether it is a logo or software won't work, but I don't know how they would enforce the latter. In any case OEM will be required to support it in hardware if they want windows on it past this July.
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  5.    14 May 2016 #15

    So is this page saying that Haswell chipset has TPM 2? And what is TPM anyway.
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  6.    14 May 2016 #16
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    Quote Originally Posted by swarfega View Post
    So is this page saying that Haswell chipset has TPM 2? And what is TPM anyway.


    I looked at that page and it seems to me that Haswell is listed as having the ability to have a firmware update that would make it TPM 2.0 compliant. That is good because I built this little Haswell based system myself, it has an i5 4690, and I don't want to hassle a bunch of hardware updates.
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  7.    14 May 2016 #17
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    I guess that not every Haswell chip is TPM 2.0 compliant. I am sitting here doing my research and I came across this little whitepaper http://www.intel.com/content/dam/www...rity-paper.pdf which talks extensively about the connection between Intel's Trusted Execution Technology and TPM, I am thinking that everything is good. Then I look at the specs for my specific Haswell chip (the i5 4690) and I see that Trusted Execution Technology is not enabled Intel Coreā„¢ i5-4690K Processor (6M Cache, up to 3.90 GHz) Specifications

    So I am still confused.
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  8.    14 May 2016 #18

    Quote Originally Posted by Rocky View Post
    I looked at that page and it seems to me that Haswell is listed as having the ability to have a firmware update that would make it TPM 2.0 compliant. That is good because I built this little Haswell based system myself, it has an i5 4690, and I don't want to hassle a bunch of hardware updates.
    Thanks for the confirmation.
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  9.    14 May 2016 #19
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    Sorry for being slow, TPM is completely new to me. Anyways, I built this PC myself over a year ago, and I went ahead and ran the tpm.msc command in Run and it said something about me not having TPM. Since I built this PC myself I don't need to worry, correct? My PC components are in my System Specs.
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  10.    14 May 2016 #20
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cliff S View Post
    Can I understand this then, it's just for some kind of seal then(Germans love those approval seals, on everything, by the way, right Frank?)
    I like the idea, personally, that my next PC will be even more secure(and with this implemented hopefully the 3rd party software).
    Thats right, Cliff!
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