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  1. Joined : Jul 2015
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    Windows 10 Pro x64 RS 10586.586
       08 May 2016 #1

    Clarified:the free upgrade offer to Win 10 is ending July 29th, really


    Clarified: the free upgrade offer to Windows 10 is ending July 29th, really
    Microsoft has responded to speculation that Microsoft left itself some wiggle room

    Yesterday, we reported on speculation that Microsoft may have been hedging on its decision to end the free upgrade promotion after it’s year was over, on July 29th, 2016. In a statement supplied to Mary Jo Foley over at ZDNet, a Microsoft spokesperson wrote to her that the promotion was “currently slated” to end on the 29th, giving what appeared to Foley and others (including us) some wiggle room.

    Microsoft has since clarified their response to her, stating that the initial statement was “incorrect,” and offered a new, more definitive statement:

    “The free upgrade promotion is ending on July 29 and we encourage all of our customers to take advantage of it while it is still active.”

    So the free upgrade offer is definitively coming to an end. Still we wouldn’t be surprised to see new, similar offers, as Microsoft pushes to attain its goal of 1 billion active installations of Windows 10. But Microsoft has probably enticed as many people as it’s going to with the free offer, and pushing harder for users to upgrade has seen its share of backlash.
    Read more: http://www.winbeta.org/news/clarifie...ding-july-29th
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  2. Joined : Jul 2016
    Ocean Beach, California
    Posts : 11
    Windows 7 Ultimate
       19 Jul 2016 #2

    So... what happens with respect to Windows 10 licensing the day after? Someone high up in Microsoft indicated that the O/S won't go to subscription pricing but that's not the same as Microsoft saying it. I personally don't believe that Windows 10 will be the last version of operating system they'll ever sell.
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  3. Joined : Jun 2014
    Posts : 4,503
    Windows 10 Pro
       19 Jul 2016 #3

    Justin Case said: View Post
    So... what happens with respect to Windows 10 licensing the day after? Someone high up in Microsoft indicated that the O/S won't go to subscription pricing but that's not the same as Microsoft saying it. I personally don't believe that Windows 10 will be the last version of operating system they'll ever sell.
    I don't see MS charging a subscription for user to continue using Windows 10. I also think bug fixes and security patches will continue to by free. I wouldn't be surprised if sometime in the near future MS starts charging a subscription fee for those who want to continue adding new features to Windows 10.
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  4. Joined : Jul 2016
    Ocean Beach, California
    Posts : 11
    Windows 7 Ultimate
       19 Jul 2016 #4

    Winuser said: View Post
    I don't see MS charging a subscription for user to continue using Windows 10. I also think bug fixes and security patches will continue to by free. I wouldn't be surprised if sometime in the near future MS starts charging a subscription fee for those who want to continue adding new features to Windows 10.
    I think the problem becomes one of program-to-app conversions that are taking place up in Redmond. Right now, many programs (and hardware drivers) are delivered as a program (unsigned). When something becomes an "app" it becomes signed and may likely follow the same path that Apple's apps take: they're provisioned for a single device ID.

    I just noticed that a popular printer driver for the Toshiba eStudio printer now indicates in Settings -> Printers that there's an app version of this now available. So in theory, you'd have to download that from the Windows Store in order to receive it. This really isn't the way I.T. now delivers updates to workstations in a business. We roll out updates to printer drivers, we don't expect them to arrive via a store methodology. What happens in the future if printer drivers come with a fee attached?

    You might plug in your new digital camera or a USB san disk only to find that Microsoft wants to charge you $0.99 for the driver related to it. It's not as far-fetched as it seems. Until Microsoft officially states what the future looks like, there are really no guarantees. (Apple themselves somewhere along the line decided to charge for a codec in QuickTime that they formerly included for free. And they pulled SoundStudio out of OS X as well.)
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  5. Joined : Oct 2014
    Trnava
    Posts : 1,738
    Windows Home x64 (Home per choice)
       19 Jul 2016 #5

    Some people actually do not like free, for them free = low quality, so MS has to catch up with those guys as well.

    Winuser said: View Post
    I don't see MS charging a subscription for user to continue using Windows 10.
    Not yet. But Windows will eventually be sold as Windows not as Windows 10, just plain Windows, so it is just a matter of time.

    http://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonke.../#5756f000dfab
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  6. Joined : Sep 2014
    Posts : 234
    10 preview 64bit
       19 Jul 2016 #6

    Hi Justin,
    In essence that means you can buy it, but it wont work!!
    CANT see that happening.

    Roy

    Edit MS has allready said it will miss its 1 billion target date
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  7. Joined : Aug 2015
    Raleigh, NC, USA
    Posts : 350
    Windows 10 Pro x3 Windows 10 Home x1
       19 Jul 2016 #7

    Microsoft may want to be a bit wary of getting too greedy with Windows. They aren't the only people capable of coming up with a computer OS. And some of those others would love nothing better than sticking it to Microsoft by stealing lots of their Windows customers.
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  8. Joined : Jul 2016
    Ocean Beach, California
    Posts : 11
    Windows 7 Ultimate
       19 Jul 2016 #8

    hawkman said: View Post
    Hi Justin,
    In essence that means you can buy it, but it wont work!!
    CANT see that happening.

    Roy
    Have you ever bought an airline ticket and arrived at check-in only then to find out that they're going to charge you $25 for your suitcase? http://www.airfarewatchdog.com/blog/...ge-fees-chart/

    How about those hidden fees when you book a hotel room online? http://www.thefiscaltimes.com/Articl...Pump-Your-Bill

    The same is true for rentals, insurance policies, phone service, buying online and cloud-based anything these days.

    I just bought a pair of Zeiss VR One virtual reality goggles at Frye's to find out when I got it home that it didn't include any slide-in tray(s) for any smartphone whatsoever. And of course Frye's didn't have any in stock so yes, it was useless to me.

    In a world that's driven by "lowest cost" on Google -> Shopping, then people have learned how to hide all kinds of fees.
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  9. Joined : Jan 2014
    Oak Ridge TN, USA
    Posts : 23,939
    Windows 10 Pro x64
       19 Jul 2016 #9

    TairikuOkami said: View Post
    Some people actually do not like free, for them free = low quality, so MS has to catch up with those guys as well.


    Not yet. But Windows will eventually be sold as Windows not as Windows 10, just plain Windows, so it is just a matter of time.

    http://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonke.../#5756f000dfab
    I wouldn't take anything you read on Forbes serious. The author is a well known anti MS shrill.
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  10. Joined : Jan 2014
    Oak Ridge TN, USA
    Posts : 23,939
    Windows 10 Pro x64
       19 Jul 2016 #10

    Justin Case said: View Post
    I think the problem becomes one of program-to-app conversions that are taking place up in Redmond. Right now, many programs (and hardware drivers) are delivered as a program (unsigned). When something becomes an "app" it becomes signed and may likely follow the same path that Apple's apps take: they're provisioned for a single device ID.

    I just noticed that a popular printer driver for the Toshiba eStudio printer now indicates in Settings -> Printers that there's an app version of this now available. So in theory, you'd have to download that from the Windows Store in order to receive it. This really isn't the way I.T. now delivers updates to workstations in a business. We roll out updates to printer drivers, we don't expect them to arrive via a store methodology. What happens in the future if printer drivers come with a fee attached?

    You might plug in your new digital camera or a USB san disk only to find that Microsoft wants to charge you $0.99 for the driver related to it. It's not as far-fetched as it seems. Until Microsoft officially states what the future looks like, there are really no guarantees. (Apple themselves somewhere along the line decided to charge for a codec in QuickTime that they formerly included for free. And they pulled SoundStudio out of OS X as well.)
    I think that you're making a lot of assumptions here. While MS might want to move some of it's software to an app platform it doesn't mean that other software vendors are going to head in the same direction. And there is no reason to think that there will be a charge for drivers in the future.

    Keep calm and carry on.
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