Windows 10: Windows Live Mail 2012 will not connect to Outlook.com

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  1.    07 May 2016 #21

    Victek said: View Post
    It's not clear if these protocols are also going away. If POP and IMAP remain active I don't see why you couldn't continue to use WLM.
    So in short, any client that doesn't support EAS won't be able to connect to Outlook.com accounts?

    Does eM Client and Thunderbird support EAS? If they do, the key question will be: will they be able to access Outlook.com accounts as well?
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  2.    07 May 2016 #22

    AdHoc said: View Post
    So in short, any client that doesn't support EAS won't be able to connect to Outlook.com accounts?
    As I said it's not clear if POP and IMAP will continue to work.

    AdHoc said: View Post
    Does eM Client and Thunderbird support EAS? If they do, the key question will be: will they be able to access Outlook.com accounts as well?
    eMClient supports EAS. As far as I can tell Thunderbird does not.
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       07 May 2016 #23

    Don't want to PAY to READ MY EMAIL.
    100% agree! Apparently the future is online subscriptions to everything! Microsoft and other companies are attempting to establish perpetual income from their products by doing away with the ONE TIME purchases! It might work but then again I believe they will see massive amounts of resistance which eventually end up with decreases in sales.
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       07 May 2016 #24

    Victek said: View Post
    It's not the client per se, but the protocol used for accessing the outlook.com account. WLM uses DeltaSync for outlook.com accounts by default. DeltaSync is going away. The mail app in Windows 10 supports EAS (exchange active sync) and EAS is what Microsoft is using going forward. It has been possible however for WLM to access outlook.com accounts using both the POP and IMAP protocols:

    POP3 and IMAP settings for Hotmail and Windows Live Mail | Firetrust

    It's not clear if these protocols are also going away. If POP and IMAP remain active I don't see why you couldn't continue to use WLM. I should note that as a test I setup one of my outlook.com accounts in WLM using IMAP a while back and the performance was terrible. I think the best solution is MS Office Outlook 2013/2016 since they support EAS, but of course they have to be purchased. My second choice is eMclient (also supports EAS), but I find it's slow compared with Outlook 2013 and the UI is a bit clunky IMHO.
    Thanks for the details.

    I've tried eM Client and it works well. Two things I see on the eM pages

    Free client does not support more than 2 accounts.

    Supports all standard protocols
    It supports virtually all conceivable email technologies (POP3, SMTP, IMAP, EWS, AirSync).

    I won't be able to use the free version since I have more than two eMail accounts (if eMail accounts are what they mean)

    I'd need to do more research on the protocols, EWS / EAS
    Choosing between Exchange ActiveSync and EWS

    Complaints asside, MS has alerted users of the change and I applaud that.
    While the article might be a bit short on technical details, it does provide users with options
    - and that's a fair thing to do.
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  5.    07 May 2016 #25

    Victek said: View Post
    It's not the client per se, but the protocol used for accessing the outlook.com account. WLM uses DeltaSync for outlook.com accounts by default. DeltaSync is going away. The mail app in Windows 10 supports EAS (exchange active sync) and EAS is what Microsoft is using going forward. It has been possible however for WLM to access outlook.com accounts using both the POP and IMAP protocols:

    POP3 and IMAP settings for Hotmail and Windows Live Mail | Firetrust

    It's not clear if support for these protocols is also going away. If POP and IMAP remain active I don't see why you couldn't continue to use WLM.
    I saw a suggestion on another forum, which was that POP and IMAP might continue to work, but by using them you'd lose the ability to sync Calendar and Contacts, which I imagine was there with DeltaSync.

    If that's true, WLM would partially work with Outlook accounts, and for those who only wanted to sync emails, it might be good enough. This is all just speculation of course.
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       07 May 2016 #26

    z3r010 said: View Post
    eM Client is a very good choice, if you need more than 2 emails it is worth paying for the full version.
    Hi, I have WLM 2012 .Do you have a link for eM Client That I could d/l Thanks Jerry
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  7.    07 May 2016 #27

    Today I signed out of WLM 2012 for the heck of it. The calendar and contacts were not available. That being said, it will receive emails, but you would need your contacts to send emails. If you plan to keep WLM 2012 be sure to export your contacts. Then you would be able to import them back if Microsoft does not load them.
    Last edited by gtspeck; 07 May 2016 at 20:57.
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       07 May 2016 #28

    gtspeck said: View Post
    Today I signed out of WLM 2012 for the heck of it. The calendar and contacts were not available. That being said, it will receive emails, but you would need your contacts to send emails unless you knew their email address. Bummer!
    Thanks for the Info
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  9.    07 May 2016 #29

    jerrypc1 said: View Post
    Hi, I have WLM 2012 .Do you have a link for eM Client That I could d/l Thanks Jerry
    eM Client | Best Email Client for Windows 10, 8, 7, XP
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  10. Posts : 744
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       07 May 2016 #30

    Thanks computiac I will give it a try.Jerry
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