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  1. Joined : Dec 2015
    Posts : 31
    Windows 7
       06 May 2016 #11

    So, what are our non-Microsoft options?
    Will any third party email client support the new Outlook system?
    I really dislike Thunderbird, so I'm looking for other options.
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  2. Joined : May 2016
    Posts : 199
    Windows 10 Pro
       06 May 2016 #12

    I like eM Client, it looks and feels like WLM 2011/2012. Only draw back is; the free version only allows for 2 email accounts but the paid version allows unlimited accounts. I also like and use Incredimail.....fun for animated emails.

    Alternatively, you could use any of the web-based email client....like Gmail and outlook.com.
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  3. Joined : Nov 2015
    Posts : 4,766
    windows 10 Home threshold2
       06 May 2016 #13

    Plankton said: View Post
    I like eM Client, it looks and feels like WLM 2011/2012. Only draw back is; the free version only allows for 2 email accounts but the paid version allows unlimited accounts. I also like and use Incredimail.....fun for animated emails.

    Alternatively, you could use any of the web-based email client....like Gmail and outlook.com.
    Five Best Email Clients
    I would strongly, strongly advise everyone to stay away from Incredimail.
    Danger.
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  4. Joined : Jul 2015
    Eastbourne East Sussex UK
    Posts : 2,450
    Windows 10 Home x64: 1607 Redstone (1) Build 143934.693
       06 May 2016 #14

    Plankton said: View Post
    I like eM Client, it looks and feels like WLM 2011/2012. Only draw back is; the free version only allows for 2 email accounts but the paid version allows unlimited accounts. I also like and use Incredimail.....fun for animated emails.

    Alternatively, you could use any of the web-based email client....like Gmail and outlook.com.
    Five Best Email Clients
    I used and paid for incredimail but dumped it as soon as I got windows 10 and the new Mail App.
    Would warn anyone getting it watch your computer slow down and they push you to buy more and more extras from them.
    Left them now 9 months ago and still being asked do I want to go back to them.
    So I would say keep away from it
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  5. Joined : Nov 2015
    Posts : 4,766
    windows 10 Home threshold2
       06 May 2016 #15

    Plankton said: View Post
    I like eM Client, it looks and feels like WLM 2011/2012. Only draw back is; the free version only allows for 2 email accounts but the paid version allows unlimited accounts. I also like and use Incredimail.....fun for animated emails.

    Alternatively, you could use any of the web-based email client....like Gmail and outlook.com.
    Five Best Email Clients
    Stay with eM Client would be a good choice.
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  6. Joined : Oct 2013
    Standish, Lancashire
    Posts : 4,815
    Windows 10 Pro x64
       06 May 2016 #16

    eM Client is a very good choice, if you need more than 2 emails it is worth paying for the full version.
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  7.    06 May 2016 #17

    Slartybart said: View Post
    MS does it again!

    The implication is that ALL eMail clients (other than Mail App or Outlook) will not be able to connect to Outlook.com

    Rather than force users to MS products, they should continue to support industry STANDARDS (POP3, IMAP) and add their proprietary protocol as an additional option.

    C'est la vie!
    I think ur right, after they flip the switch it will be MS apps for MS mail accounts. At least out of the gate.
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  8. Joined : Oct 2013
    Penns Forrest
    Posts : 3,506
    Win_8.1-Pro, Win_10.1607-Pro, Mint_17.3
       06 May 2016 #18

    imaddicted2u said: View Post
    I think ur right, after they flip the switch it will be MS apps for MS mail accounts. At least out of the gate.
    It's a strange msg. from MS support. Probably more marketing than support though

    If you're using Windows 7, you can upgrade to a newer version of Windows to enjoy the Mail app and the other benefits, or you can access your account via a web browser.

    Use Outlook 2016 for Windows
    You can also take advantage of a free one-year subscription of Office 365 Personal and use Outlook 2016 to connect to your account.
    If you want the new sync tech provided by Outlook.com, Mail App, and Outlook - then the msgs is clear - WLM won't do that.
    If you want to use Outlook.com - you have to switch to another eMail client ????

    WLM is suffering the same fate as every other MS Mail client - abandonment. But there's more in the msg. It also referecnes Win7 users, urging them to update to ...

    What's not clear is what advantages are to adopting the new sync technology, other than collaborate effortlessly with Office documents, get more done using partner add-ins. I'm sure they have lots in mind for this new tech - ad push?

    I'm simply being tech-minded, not anti-MS. How on earth can MS suggest using another eMail client and say in the same breath that WLM 2012 won't work?
    Who needs to take action?

    Anyone who currently uses Windows Live Mail 2012 to connect to Outlook.com needs to switch to an alternate email application or start accessing their email via web browser.

    People who use Windows Live Mail 2012 to connect to email services other than Outlook.com, including Gmail, Yahoo Mail, or other services that use POP3 or IMAP protocols, do not need to take action.

    Outlook.com users who do not use Windows Live Mail 2012 also do not need to take action.
    Are they intentionally going to check which client connects and deny WLM?
    Are they going to update WLM to stop working?

    I guess I'll find out in late June
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  9. Joined : Jun 2014
    Posts : 4,513
    Windows 10 Pro
       07 May 2016 #19

    I tried the free version of eM Client. I liked it so much that I decided to switch from Thunderbird and went with the paid version.
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  10. Joined : Oct 2014
    Posts : 196
    Windows 10 x64
       07 May 2016 #20

    Slartybart said: View Post
    Are they intentionally going to check which client connects and deny WLM?
    Are they going to update WLM to stop working?
    It's not the client per se, but the protocol used for accessing the outlook.com account. WLM uses DeltaSync for outlook.com accounts by default. DeltaSync is going away. The mail app in Windows 10 supports EAS (exchange active sync) and EAS is what Microsoft is using going forward. It has been possible however for WLM to access outlook.com accounts using both the POP and IMAP protocols:

    POP3 and IMAP settings for Hotmail and Windows Live Mail | Firetrust

    It's not clear if support for these protocols is also going away. If POP and IMAP remain active I don't see why you couldn't continue to use WLM. I should note that as a test I setup one of my outlook.com accounts in WLM using IMAP a while back and the performance was terrible. I think the best solution is MS Office Outlook 2013/2016 since they support EAS, but of course they have to be purchased. My second choice is eMclient (also supports EAS), but I find it's slow compared with Outlook 2013 and the UI is a bit clunky IMHO.
    Last edited by Victek; 07 May 2016 at 12:08.
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