Get ready to pay more for apps on Windows Store

Roger said:

If you are trying to survive on Solitaire and Mahjong be my guest but if you want to live a little try 2 Deck Freecell......
and the only place I know of to get it............. yep, Windows Store

Thanks, Roger, but FreeCell is in the package I have and I hate it. Makes me brain hurt trying to figure out how to get around that one. :)

Wynona said:

... they're no longer called Metro . . . it's now Modern Apps.

Actually, they're called 'Universal Apps'!

BillyBob said:

Is there a reason you have a computer, oh yeah, Solitaire and Mahjong.

Yup . . . I use my computer(s) mostly for serious business applications. And beta testing. I play the Solitaire games when I'm mulling over things and need something that's pretty mindless while I'm thinking.

BillyBob said:

Look just because you don't have a need for these apps doesn't make them any less useful to other people, and by the way there are loads of useful games and apps.

Well, really, I don't believe the Apps are useless; I merely don't have a need for them. Why should I be forced to use something I don't need?

BillyBob said:

I just get sick of people saying they have no need for the store as if it's some kind of 3 headed monster.

Ummm, pardon moi? Did I say the Store is a three headed monster? It isn't and it does serve its purpose for those who need and/or want to use the apps there.

BillyBob said:

I have 4 TVs a highly expensive sound system a HTC M8 and yet somehow I still find these apps useful for quickly looking stuff up.

O . . . K

BillyBob said:

My opinion is that the Store is a great way of getting apps without having to go out and buy a programme or get ripped off going out onto the Wildworld Webb of thieves and get all kinds of nasty malware etc.

And my opinion, if I'm allowed to have one, is that the programs I have (Microsoft Office 365 subscription, Word Perfect Office, Corel Paint Shop Pro, Dragon Naturally Speaking, Pinnacle Studio, PaperPort, Dreamweaver, Expression Studio and various and sundry other programs), I simply do not need anything from the Store.

I may make you sick with my opinion, but I cannot help that, nor will I try to change your mind. I just don't see why you should be so intolerant of my reasons for not using the Store.

Edwin said:

Actually, they're called 'Universal Apps'!

Oops! I be a tad bit behind the times. When did they change them to Universal?

Wynona said:

Oops! I be a tad bit behind the times. When did they change them to Universal?

I was just messin with ya! :)
That's what they're going to refer to them as; when everything goes multi platform.
I suspect when that happens they'll ditch the 'green' Store as well.

Edwin said:

I was just messin with ya! :)
That's what they're going to refer to them as; when everything goes multi platform.
I suspect when that happens they'll ditch the 'green' Store as well.

<hehehe>Smart Alec!

Multi Platform?

Well, they need to do something about the Store. It isn't very organized.

"I may make you sick with my opinion, but I cannot help that, nor will I try to change your mind. I just don't see why you should be so intolerant of my reasons for not using the Store."

I didn't say you make me sick, it was just a generalisation towards people who have this, I will never use the store attitude, probably because they wouldn't be caught dead using a "Universal App".

Nobody has to use the store if they don't want to, but it's this thing Windows 8 haters have towards it that tick me off a bit, its a bit like the Vista and ME thing, I just get a bit annoyed about all the negativity.

Anyway none of this was aimed at you.

Ok boys and girls, the store is there for those of use who chose to or not to use it. Now Microsoft has yet to go the distance that Apple has with the App store even though in the long run it is what is on the block. It takes time to get something up and working the way the big guys at Microsoft want them, so "Chill,' and give them time to get things up and running . I remember the days when the same kind of bitching was going on about the Apple App store, now folks are finding out it is working pretty much the way they want. It low includes all the heavy weight programs like Photoshop, Microsoft Office for the Mac, etc., etc. At present I am using the Office 2016 preview apps (Excel, Word, and Powerpoint that I downloaded from the App Store (Beta), and must I am very happy with the three apps. So since this is still a TP give it a chance and some time. . .:)

Lee said:

Ok boys and girls, the store is there for those of use who chose to or not to use it. Now Microsoft has yet to go the distance that Apple has with the App store even though in the long run it is what is on the block. It takes time to get something up and working the way the big guys at Microsoft want them, so "Chill,' and give them time to get things up and running . I remember the days when the same kind of bitching was going on about the Apple App store, now folks are finding out it is working pretty much the way they want. It low includes all the heavy weight programs like Photoshop, Microsoft Office for the Mac, etc., etc. At present I am using the Office 2016 preview apps (Excel, Word, and Powerpoint that I downloaded from the App Store (Beta), and must I am very happy with the three apps. So since this is still a TP give it a chance and some time. . .:)

Now that's what I'm talking about.

unifex said:

I think it's quite clear that a single interface across all hardware platforms is a bad idea. Even Apple does not push that with iOS and OSX being clearly distinct. Of course, Microsoft covers way more hardware than Apple, but it is not clear why the user interface on a phone and on a desktop PC Should be same.

Of course there are applications that need to run full screen and perhaps span over multiple monitors. But these are rather specialized programs and not apps. In the past one could run them within the regular windowed interface without trouble. The good thing about the regular windowed interface is that I can choose whether to run a program full screen or not, depending on what I want to do. Sometimes, I use Acrobat full screen, because if I'm discussing the text with someone, it's good to have it as big as possible. But when I'm editing the same text, I need to have the editor, the command line, the pdf reader and a couple of other instances of acrobat open all at the same time. That cannot be done within the rigid restrictions of the tablet-like interface. That's why my iPad is good to show kids cartoons, maybe read the news before going to bed, and not much more.

Hi there

A lot of people also forget that many "Classical" applications need either multi -Windowed operation or the use of more than one monitor. For example imagine translating text from one document into two other languages -- with only one window or a single full screen it becomes hideous. - Same issue for example if you are looking at an Engineering drawing and you want to select a small piece of it - you can show this on a separate monitor while referencing it on another screen .

I'm also sure loads of people copy bits of text / pictures / etc from one application into another say from EXCEL into POWERPOINT.
Multiple web sites being open concurrently is also a good idea when comparing things like Airline prices and flights.

Mobile phones and small touch devices operate an "App" as generally a single task --real work on a desktop is rarely that simple so it's BONKERS to pretend it is and create an identical interface --it just won't work.

For simply wanting to watch a video, simple surfing / emailing or messing about on "Farcebook" etc you don't really need a computer at all -- slabs can handle that quite easily or even the larger sized smartphones - iPhone 4/5, Samsung S4/5/6 etc. Here obviously a single full screen works best.

I think the realisation that a desktop computer IS NOT A MOBILE PHONE and is a separate tool in its own right that needs its own proper interface and GUI is finally getting through to some of those pea sized brains in Redmond.


The Store concept at at Apple is very different -- most people don't have MANY macbooks- usually a SINGLE computer -- now for Windows machines - many people have several if not 1000's in corporate networks. Having to use the Store to download and install programs on loads of computers is simply a total waste of time and bandwidth - not only that unlike Apple with essentially unified hardware windows machines come in a HUGE variety of hardware.

The Store also doesn't contain VERSIONS so if your update goes wrong you can't roll back if you don't have the install file or are unable to get it. I'm sure people especially with ANDROID phones have had issues when apps have been updated and don't work - and you can't get back the previous version. People on this very Forum have complained about the lack of control with automatic updates on build 10041 - especially with things like hardware drivers.


Cheers
jimbo