Announcing Windows 10 Insider Preview Build 14332 for PC and Mobile Insider

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  1. Posts : 4,224
    Windows 10
       #80

    Been busy with real work, so just got my two test machines updated. For the first time ever, my desktop (Win10 Enterprise) came up with a munged Nvidia driverset: Nvidia Experience wouldn't run, I couldn't use Revo to uninstall the old drivers, and the virtual audio adapter came up under unknown devices in DevMgr (I was able to figure it out by looking up the Hardware device ID). I ended up using Programs & Features to uninstall everything Nvidia related and then installed a fresh new version from the Nvidia website.

    Interesting sidenote: while fixing the graphics driver issue, I got the dreaded black screen (cursor only) desktop. I used CTRL-ALT-DEL to run taskmanager from the popover menu, then ran explorer.exe which got me my desktop back. After that I was able to download and run the new driver set having gotten rid of the old one.

    So far, not seeing issues on the Dell (no problems with the network adapter on either machine, after losing both the Killer e2200 on the desktop and the Dell 1537 a/b/g/n adapter on the previous Fast Ring build).

    I lost Explorer on the taskbar in this build on both machines, but was able to use the "Pin to taskbar" option after running the app to get it showing once again.

    It's always something! More to come, I'm sure...
    --Ed--
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  2. Posts : 2,161
    Windows 11 Beta channel
       #81

    No major issues so far. As much as I'd like to give Edge a decent trial run, it still doesn't import my favorites from Chrome correctly. In previous builds, it would import 5 or 6 of my favorites out of 25+. In this build, it just flat out refuses to import any at all.
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  3. Posts : 30,588
    Windows 10 (Pro and Insider Pro)
       #82

    EdTittel said:

    I lost Explorer on the taskbar in this build on both machines, but was able to use the "Pin to taskbar" option after running the app to get it showing once again.

    It's always something! More to come, I'm sure...
    --Ed--
    MS deliberately removed Explorer shortcut on Taskbar, so users would try to find it in new Start menu (I guess).
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  4. Posts : 29,078
    Windows 10 21H1 Build 19043.1023
       #83

    AndreTen said:
    MS deliberately removed Explorer shortcut on Taskbar, so users would try to find it in new Start menu (I guess).
    It's under Windows Accessories>Internet Explorer for anyone who doesn't know. I found it there by accident some time back.
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  5. Posts : 30,588
    Windows 10 (Pro and Insider Pro)
       #84

    Wynona said:
    It's under Windows Accessories>Internet Explorer for anyone who doesn't know. I found it there by accident some time back.
    No, we were talking about File Explorer and how MS removed it from taskbar. It was in previous build, not this one. This is from that "28 page thingy..." :)

    "File Explorer Unpinned from the Taskbar

    We hear feedback from Windows Insiders about how important the space on the taskbar is for them, and we made a major change in Windows 10 early last year based on their feedback when we added an option to hide the search box. We’re continuing to look at things we can do to make this the best use of space possible, including what gets pinned by default. In this build we are unpinning File Explorer by default to see whether Insiders prefer it pinned, or would rather have the space for their own use and launch File Explorer when they need it from Start. You can also re-pin it to your taskbar by opening Start, right-clicking on File Explorer in the left rail, choosing “More” and then “Pin to taskbar”. Tell us what you think about this via the Feedback Hub. This study is similar to the one we did a year ago where Insiders helped determine what windows were represented on the taskbar in virtual desktops."
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  6. Posts : 29,078
    Windows 10 21H1 Build 19043.1023
       #85

    Oh! Since I remove everything from my taskbar immediately, I hadn't missed it at all.

    Besides, you only have to click one extra time to get to it from Start. :) <Ducking and running>

    One of the first things I set up in any clean install is the QuickLaunch Bar. Then I just add what I use most to that. The QL Bar uses the very small icons as opposed to those used on the taskbar. The beauty of QuickLaunch is that you can pin files to it, which you can't do on the TaskBar.

    Announcing Windows 10 Insider Preview Build 14332 for PC and Mobile-quicklaunch-vs-taskbar.png

    QuickLaunch is on the left.
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  7. Posts : 1,983
    Windows 10 x86 14383 Insider Pro and Core 10240
       #86

    AndreTen said:
    No, we were talking about File Explorer and how MS removed it from taskbar. It was in previous build, not this one. This is from that "28 page thingy..." :)

    "File Explorer Unpinned from the Taskbar

    We hear feedback from Windows Insiders about how important the space on the taskbar is for them, and we made a major change in Windows 10 early last year based on their feedback when we added an option to hide the search box. We’re continuing to look at things we can do to make this the best use of space possible, including what gets pinned by default. In this build we are unpinning File Explorer by default to see whether Insiders prefer it pinned, or would rather have the space for their own use and launch File Explorer when they need it from Start. You can also re-pin it to your taskbar by opening Start, right-clicking on File Explorer in the left rail, choosing “More” and then “Pin to taskbar”. Tell us what you think about this via the Feedback Hub. This study is similar to the one we did a year ago where Insiders helped determine what windows were represented on the taskbar in virtual desktops."
    I've already given my feedback.

    Why would I want a 2-click access to my files when I could have a 1-click access?

    Edge? Cortana? Task View? No thanks. Shove them where I always shove the Photos app. Where nobody can see them.
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  8. Posts : 807
    Win10x64 v2004 latest build fast ring
       #87

    I'm afraid this build is also borked for my hardware...I've once again reverted to 14316...the last really satisfactory build for my hardware. I've let them know in feedback that I'm very tired of having to disable secure-boot simply to get a new build to install, which has been the case for the last several builds. My Samsung Magician software 4.9.5 is still failing to run and identify my AHCI/SataIII bus during secure-boot--so it thinks I don't have a SATA3 bus at all, which is funny because my EVO 850 won't run on any other bus. I haven't heard a peep out of Microsoft on this although I've reported it several times already. I have no doubt the problem is trying to shoehorn all of that Windows phone garbage support into the plug & play computer portion of the OS--I'm positive the cell-phone guts are not designed for p&p so they'll have to hard-code that support--it's got to foul up the x86-64 portion of the of the OS! Ugh--what a dumb idea--to take old phone tech (cell phones often use hardware that was SOA on the desktop more than a decade ago) and try to merge that with modern "plug & pray" hardware paradigms! Microsoft calls it UWP but I call it UWA, "A" for "abomination."

    I'm very confused as to the rationale behind UWP, anyway--as Microsoft has already officially ended most of its cell-phone work and written off about $8B in charges relating to the idiotic Nokia purchase--which Microsoft needed like a hole in the head. The temporary tablet craze is winding down now that most people have discovered just how limited they are versus desktops & fully-featured laptops. The only real emerging fads at the moment are 4k+ gaming support and "VR"...both of which strengthen desktop PC sales and markets. Microsoft's core business always has been and always will be computer OS software--simply amazing how the company tends to forget that in its desire to "experiment" with the directions other, far less capable companies, might be temporarily taking.

    Sorry to beef & moan...but I've been in the Insider's program since 10/2014 and I'm getting tired of the poor quality of the builds lately (14316 is the last really good build on my hardware)--from now on, if a build doesn't install the first time, without my having to disable secure boot in my UEFI bios, I'm going to immediately revert to the previous *working* build. I'm done with trouble-shooting in that regard, as I've already given them copious amounts of data--Lord knows what they are doing with it... They are sure aren't fixing the stuff I've pointed out to them--and gosh knows, there are enough people besides me complaining via the Feedback hub about not being able to install a given build, too, that you'd think they would be listening. But do these things ever even make the "known issues" page? Hah. Never, it seems, let alone the "Fixed" issue list. I really don't get it.

    Speaking of "feedback"--that's the purpose of the entire Insiders program, right? So why is it that the last two builds--oddly enough the ones I cannot install without disabling my secure-boot function--have *buggy* feedback hubs? With 14328, I let the the build "hydrate" for hours as per Gabe's instruction--didn't matter--it still didn't work. Microsoft should never have released even one build in which Feedback is so borked it doesn't work! That strikes me as a pure waste of time! Lately, this is more like testing alpha-level software instead of beta.
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  9. Posts : 30,588
    Windows 10 (Pro and Insider Pro)
       #88

    Wynona said:
    Oh! Since I remove everything from my taskbar immediately, I hadn't missed it at all.

    Besides, you only have to click one extra time to get to it from Start. :) <Ducking and running>

    One of the first things I set up in any clean install is the QuickLaunch Bar. Then I just add what I use most to that. The QL Bar uses the very small icons as opposed to those used on the taskbar. The beauty of QuickLaunch is that you can pin files to it, which you can't do on the TaskBar.

    Announcing Windows 10 Insider Preview Build 14332 for PC and Mobile-quicklaunch-vs-taskbar.png

    QuickLaunch is on the left.
    Fafhrd said:
    I've already given my feedback.

    Why would I want a 2-click access to my files when I could have a 1-click access?

    Edge? Cortana? Task View? No thanks. Shove them where I always shove the Photos app. Where nobody can see them.
    I did immediately pin it back to taskbar, where it belongs. I don't use any third party system apps. Have to say, that I like Taskbar and its functionality. Don't really need files pinned to taskbar, as I can use files pinned to folders context menu. And I use it a lot.
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  10. Posts : 29,078
    Windows 10 21H1 Build 19043.1023
       #89

    Fafhrd said:
    I've already given my feedback.

    Why would I want a 2-click access to my files when I could have a 1-click access?

    Edge? Cortana? Task View? No thanks. Shove them where I always shove the Photos app. Where nobody can see them.
    I just pinned File Explorer to my TaskBar, Fafhrd, so if I wanted to use it, I can now just click on it. And yep, just unpin 'em all and you have a clean TaskBar.

    As to 1-click access, if I'm constantly using a particular file, such as Indian Hills 2016 Resident Database, I don't have to go to File Explorer>MyPassport>IndianHills>Databases>2016 Resident Database. I can just pin 2016 Resident Database to my QuickLaunch Bar and when I need to revise the database, one click does the job.
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