Windows 10: Windows 10 to make the Secure Boot alt-OS lock out a reality

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  1.    22 Mar 2015 #40

    jimbo45 said: View Post
    Hi there

    I for one won't be buying any hardware if there is no way of switching OFF protected boot. What about those users who want to run an OS TOTALLY from an EXTERNAL HDD such as say LINUX or WINDOWS to GO. These Os'es can work even if the internal "C" drive is totally broken. The whole idea of these is that they can run on as many machines as you like. If these are restricted via Protected boot then what's the whole point of creating "Portable systems".

    I've been very glad to have had a bootable external Linux system which I've been able to use to repair non functioning computers whether or not the protected boot feature was installed or not. I don't want to create loads of separate "Emergency Repair discs" and in any case the whole idea of a User key for Linux is totally against the whole idea of open source and freely useable software.

    I've probably got about 10 different Linux distros -- I certainly wouldn't want to maintain a whole slew of User keys in a Bios just to boot up a one off repair system.

    You and a lot of other people won't buy that hardware for that reason. Joe public on the other hand won't care. It will be interesting to see how many if any OEM's do this.
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       22 Mar 2015 #41

    Thanks jimbo45

    jimbo45 said: View Post
    @groze - ensure you download the Linux headers for your running kernel FIRST and distro, ensure also you have GCC (C compiler), MAKE , AUTOMAKE, CONF and AUTO CONF and then simply run the .bundle file you download from VMware. Works perfectly on CENTOS, OPENSUSE and a few other distros I've tried it on.
    I didn't have to do anything special to install the VMware Player bundle in Linux Mint 17.1 MATE (64 bit).
    I only had to set the "Executable" bit value.

    jimbo45 said: View Post
    @lehnerus2000 - The latest version of VMware software uses DYNAMIC RAM for managing VM's so older memory monitors / measurement software will probably yield "dubious" results.
    Thanks jimbo45. :)

    I was wondering if it was something like that.

    I have VMware Workstation 7 installed in W7 and Process Explorer indicates that the RAM allocated to a VM is instantly deducted from my available RAM, when the VM starts.
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       22 Mar 2015 #42

    alphanumeric said: View Post
    I'm not sure what all the fuss is about? The way I read it, OEM's can now, if they want, make secure boot so you can't disable it. They don't have to, but can. Right now it has to be a user configurable option. This is on new PC's and has nothing to do with current hardware you may own. That's my take on it anyway.
    I really hate to say this, Microsoft really can not tell the oems what to do to get the sticker and least in the U.S.
    The only time Microsoft can tell the OEM what to do, is if there building computers for Microsoft to sell to end user.
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  4.    22 Mar 2015 #43

    groze said: View Post
    I really hate to say this, Microsoft really can not tell the oems what to do to get the sticker and least in the U.S.
    The only time Microsoft can tell the OEM what to do, is if there building computers for Microsoft to sell to end user.
    It seems to me that if they wanted to, Microsoft could refuse to grant them a license to install Windows on certain hardware. No license no Windows.
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  5.    22 Mar 2015 #44

    Actually, no. That's not Dated March 2015. The entire website simply displays the current month and year in the upper right corner, go to other pages and you see the same thing.
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  6.    22 Mar 2015 #45

    Mystere said: View Post
    The only reason that would be necessary is if the card needed a firmware update for the CPU or Chipset in use. There is simply no reason that has anything to do with UEFI or Secure Boot.
    You say UFEI and Secure Boot has nothing to with installing a video card. I showed you proof that UEFI and Secure Boot does have something to do with installing a video card. If a video card doesn't support UEFI GOP and you can't turn off Secure Boot your computer is not going to boot. Yes I'm sure most if not all Video Cards manufactured today are UEFI GOP compliant. Where is your proof that I'm wrong.
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