Insider Fast builds are buggy. Deal with it. Insider

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  1. Posts : 2,161
    Windows 11 Beta channel
       #10

    I do deal with builds being buggy, quite often. That's why I'm back on build 14279. It was the last Insider build that works well for gaming.

    I knew what I was getting into when I signed up for Insider, and I've got enough knowledge to be able to fix (almost) anything that goes wrong. You won't find me being part of the "OMG Windows sux!1!" crowd. If people want stable, then they should stay away from Insider. You'd think Microsoft had spelled that out often enough, but I guess not.
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  2. Posts : 7,128
    Windows 10 Pro Insider
       #11

    blackroseMD1 said:
    I do deal with builds being buggy, quite often. That's why I'm back on build 14279. It was the last Insider build that works well for gaming.

    I knew what I was getting into when I signed up for Insider, and I've got enough knowledge to be able to fix (almost) anything that goes wrong. You won't find me being part of the "OMG Windows sux!1!" crowd. If people want stable, then they should stay away from Insider. You'd think Microsoft had spelled that out often enough, but I guess not.
    IMHO, I think some of the complainers got into the original Insider Program looking for a free OS.
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  3. Posts : 2,161
    Windows 11 Beta channel
       #12

    Winuser said:
    IMHO, I think some of the complainers got into the original Insider Program looking for a free OS.
    Yeah, I wouldn't doubt that at all.
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  4. Posts : 5,286
    Win 10 Pro x64
       #13

    Being "buggy" is only a big deal to those who run it on their main PC as their day to day OS.
    If you want to be an insider, at least get a separate hard drive if getting a test PC is not an option.

    This is how an Insider's "This PC" folder should look like:

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  5. Posts : 56,823
    Multi-boot Windows 10/11 - RTM, RP, Beta, and Insider
       #14

    Winuser said:
    IMHO, I think some of the complainers got into the original Insider Program looking for a free OS.
    Winuser, double , but in this case (IMHO), some is a substantial number.

    blackroseMD1 said:
    Yeah, I wouldn't doubt that at all.
    It might now be the only OS they have cause they chose to dedicate it as their primary, may have too much invested in time, effort, data, progs to easily go back.

    badrobot said:
    Being "buggy" is only a big deal to those who run it on their main PC as their day to day OS.
    If you want to be an insider, at least get a separate hard drive if getting a test PC is not an option.

    This is how an Insider's "This PC" folder should look like:

    Insider Fast builds are buggy. Deal with it.-2016_04_19_00_12_262.png
    Almost identical except I still have an 8.1 partition, just for giggles. And a few VMs tossed in I can really mess up with experimenting (testing).
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  6. Posts : 3,105
    W10 Pro + W10 Preview
       #15

    Just wondering.....on release only some were able to get the update.....going by the complainants postings on this forum, others had to wait days before M$ released the update again.
    Could this have been because M$ realised there was a flaw in the operating system, and were then able to rectify it?
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  7. Posts : 19,517
    W11+W11 Developer Insider + Linux
       #16

    MS tends to parse updates/upgrades so not to saturate servers. I don't think they can make changes to releases "On the fly", it's just too complicated and lengthy to do that.
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  8. Posts : 29,078
    Windows 10 21H1 Build 19043.1023
       #17

    davidhk said:
    Yes. Gone back to 14295 a few minutes ago.
    Problems:
    1. Apps disappeared when minimized to the task bar. Not found anywhere in taskbar.
    2. Using Edge. Websites also disappeared when minimized. Edge icon was not highlighted either.

    No. Won't put up with that B.S. It's my computer. I can do whatever I want with it.
    Switch to Slow ring and see what will happen to next new build.
    Worse comes to worst, I'll change it to Linux, or just shut the darn thing down. This one is just my secondary device.
    Well, David, when all is said and done, Windows Insiders are nothing more or less than beta testers. That's exactly what the Windows Insider Program is . . . a gigantic beta test with millions of beta testers rather than the thousands we had back in the old days of beta testing for Microsoft.

    I've been a beta tester for Microsoft since sometime in the late 80s or early 90s. I've enjoyed every minute too. I know what I'm getting into when I start a new beta. I've been there, done that too many times to think everything should and will be hunky dory.

    Y'know, if I had to say that Microsoft got anything wrong with this beta, it would be to say that they forgot to include beta in the Windows Insider Program. They should have named it Windows Insider Beta Program.

    Nah, there would still be those who would say, “Microsoft sucks” and “Windows 10 is the worst ever”. And you'll always have those who want the latest and greatest without having to do the work (beta testing) to get it.
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  9. Posts : 29,078
    Windows 10 21H1 Build 19043.1023
       #18

    Winuser said:
    IMHO, I think some of the complainers got into the original Insider Program looking for a free OS.
    I think maybe Windows 7 was the last time beta testers got a free copy of what they were testing. I did get a free copy of Office 2013 (a total surprise), although that wasn't normally done.

    Thing is, Windows 10 is free to anyone running Windows 7 or 8.1, so they don't even have to test if they don't want to.
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  10. Posts : 7,128
    Windows 10 Pro Insider
       #19

    Wynona said:
    I think maybe Windows 7 was the last time beta testers got a free copy of what they were testing. I did get a free copy of Office 2013 (a total surprise), although that wasn't normally done.

    Thing is, Windows 10 is free to anyone running Windows 7 or 8.1, so they don't even have to test if they don't want to.
    If you remember in the very beginning of the Windows 10 Insider program you could download and install Windows 10 on a clean HDD and you didn't need a Qualifying OS key to activate it. Anyone who decided to stay in the Insider Program after Windows 10 went RTM could continue and didn't need to use a key from a qualifying OS to keep it activated. Anyone who joined after that had to use a key from a qualifying OS. I think a very large number of complainers used the beginning opportunity to get a free Windows OS on a new computer without having to pay for it. Now they're complaining because it is a work in progress and every new build can fix some old bugs and introduce new ones. They want their cake and eat it too. :)
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