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  1. Joined : Nov 2013
    Idaho USA
    Posts : 4,534
    OS X, Win 10
       18 Mar 2015 #31

    adamf said: View Post
    Lee, that is so unfair. My wife's mothers cousin definitely said to my second cousin uncle twice removed that (without a doubt) if you have a $400K 3D printer you can definitely chop someones finger off, stick it in a pot of oil, dance the fandango and out pops a gremlin. So there - it is true.

    Best I go back to XP now in a sulk. Or Linux if you prefer.
    . . .#1. . .. . .you need to go on the comedy circuit. . .your really good. . .
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  2. Joined : Oct 2013
    Nothern Ohio
    Posts : 446
    Windows 7/64 Professional
       18 Mar 2015 #32

    It's nice to see Microsoft looking in the future.
    Us as users will have to decide to use such things or not.
    I personally don't need or want such gadgets but I'm just one person.

    I try to remember just because something is possible doesn't necessary mean that should be done.

    The place I get my pizza's from uses finger print scanner for their cash registers.
    That way they know which employee opens the register and what transaction was done.

    When it comes to phones; if you can't keep track of your phone you probable won't remember which finger to use.

    Face and eyes will depend whether one partied the night before. Might have to wait a day before your face and eyes were back to normal.

    Their are + and - with just about everything.
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  3. Joined : Oct 2014
    Posts : 1,542
    W7 32 bit, Linux Mint Xfce 18 64 bit
       18 Mar 2015 #33

    Layback bear the eye thing may not work if you have eye problem. I have a lazy eye.
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  4. Joined : Oct 2014
    Posts : 841
    Windows 8.1, Win10Pro
       18 Mar 2015 #34

    I've been taken to task for my comments in my post #26 -- so in fairness to MS, let me explain that the original context in which I read this article (on another forum) was under the heading of "Microsoft is making the password obsolete in Windows 10"

    The parts that REALLY bothered me were the following:
    We’ve heard time and time again how insecure passwords are, and Microsoft is aiming to replace them completely,..
    and
    Alongside Windows Hello Microsoft is also launching Passport, a system designed to replace passwords...
    I'm not opposed to ADDING Biometrics for authentication to Win10; I'm opposed to MS having a plan to force the rest of us to use ONLY Biometrics for Win10.

    For those interested in the entire article, here is the link: http://www.neowin.net/news/windows-h...-in-windows-10
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  5. Joined : Mar 2015
    California
    Posts : 19
    Windows 7 64-bit
       18 Mar 2015 #35

    Mark Phelps said: View Post
    I'm not opposed to ADDING Biometrics for authentication to Win10; I'm opposed to MS having a plan to force the rest of us to use ONLY Biometrics for Win10.
    Source? Other than paranoia. Pretty sure the use of Biometrics are going to be optional, just like using a Microsoft Account as your login is currently optional. None of the options are going away, while they'd prefer you used biometrics. Remember that for a good while, most people won't even have devices with which to use Biometrics. The market will ultimately shake out the winning strategy, usually based on ease of use.

    You just have to get used to breathless bloggers claiming stuff is going to 'be dead' and whatever.
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  6. Joined : Oct 2014
    Posts : 1,542
    W7 32 bit, Linux Mint Xfce 18 64 bit
       18 Mar 2015 #36

    chrisa said: View Post
    Source? Other than paranoia. Pretty sure the use of Biometrics are going to be optional, just like using a Microsoft Account as your login is currently optional. None of the options are going away, while they'd prefer you used biometrics. Remember that for a good while, most people won't even have devices with which to use Biometrics. The market will ultimately shake out the winning strategy, usually based on ease of use.

    You just have to get used to breathless bloggers claiming stuff is going to 'be dead' and whatever.
    Did you even bother reading the article that Mark Phelps linked to? He showed you proof and Vlad Dudau is a news editor.

    Here is the quote expanded

    We’ve heard time and time again how insecure passwords are, and Microsoft is aiming to replace them completely, while still offering enterprise-grade security and privacy. The company is looking at health organizations, defense contractors and financial institutions as the primary beneficiaries from Windows Hello. but that’s not to say that regular users won’t benefit as well.
    Neowin is a pretty good site, at lot of poster here would agree.
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  7. Joined : Mar 2015
    California
    Posts : 19
    Windows 7 64-bit
       18 Mar 2015 #37

    The key words there actually being 'aiming to'. If it said what you think it says the quote would have been... 'Microsoft is going to replace them completely'. But hey... Microsoft is aiming to make inroads into the Phone market. Microsoft is aiming to be the biggest company on the planet. Whether they will succeed in such endeavors does not make them a certainty or that they 'are going to' happen. Aiming is a term and could mean a great many things while still holding true.

    But in the end, Biometrics is going to be an option, one they'll be promoting as a way to provide secure systems, and one they hope will permanently take the place of passwords. Maybe it does, maybe it doesn't... but the old style is still going to be an option for backwards compatibility and particular outlier use cases.. same as oldstyle usernames are still available in lieu of using a Microsoft Account.
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  8. Joined : Oct 2013
    Covington, Louisiana
    Posts : 536
    Windows 10 Pro 64
       19 Mar 2015 #38

    Instead of reading what some blogger said why not read the source article from Microsoft to see what MS actually said.

    Using Windows Hello and “Passport” is your choice and you control whether to opt-in to use it.
    http://blogs.windows.com/bloggingwin...windows-hello/

    I just love the way these hack bloggers leave out the important things.

    Jim
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  9. Joined : Aug 2014
    Australia, Adelaide
    Posts : 1,394
    W7 Ultimate SP1 (64 bit), LM 18.1 MATE (64 bit), W10IP VM, W10 Home
       19 Mar 2015 #39

    Just like no one would ...


    chrisa said: View Post
    Ahh... so we imagine gangs of roving criminals snatching phones and cutting out eyeballs to access them?
    BunnyJ said: View Post
    Really,, that is beyond funny .. and very unlikely to occur.
    Just like no one would behead hostages and post the pictures on Facebook.


    "Biometric only" security is a stupid idea.
    How do you change your DNA, fingerprints, retina, etc. once you've been hacked?

    adamf said: View Post
    All of these "fingerprints are not secure" claims are FUD. Do you honestly thing multiple governments would use them for border control if you could fake it with a bit of scotch tape stuck on a carrot like in the movies? Sorry if I've mislaid my tin-foil hat today...
    That's why there are no illegal entries occurring in any countries in the world.

    These are the same people who can't even come up with a secure electronic voting system.
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  10. Joined : Jan 2014
    Oak Ridge TN, USA
    Posts : 23,939
    Windows 10 Pro x64
       19 Mar 2015 #40

    lehnerus2000 said: View Post
    Just like no one would behead hostages and post the pictures on Facebook.


    "Biometric only" security is a stupid idea.
    How do you change your DNA, fingerprints, retina, etc. once you've been hacked?
    Ok.. how do you hack DNA??
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