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  1.    06 Apr 2016 #101
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    dual boot W10 10586th2/14291 rs1 Win. Insider since Jan. 2015

    So far 14316 looks decent .


    Contrary to decades old conventional Wisdom and good arguments to this day of clean installing widows (every time ) I just rolled in 14316 over 14295 out of WU today like I been doing since shortly after RTM 10240 and mostly clean installs prior to that.


    I havent done anthing significant beyond popping up here on Ten Forums in 14316 (its only been running for some minutes )


    I can't attribute any performance problems/improvements or any negative consequences either way from these update/overwrite installs vs clean installs since 10240 RTM or before that unless it was resolving a specific problem or a few of them like it did prior to 10240 RTM .




    ofc. YMMV it's Windows after all .




    I always roll out a fresh ESD copy from the new build WU downloads first thing and stash it in a named folder in case I need to make an ISO.


    I had to use those via mounting them from within windows twice recently when the install set up stalled at checking updates . I by passed all that on the ISO you don't get that option on a direct WU re start/overwrite update install like I did today .


    OTOH today's WU overwrite install was as smooth as a new u know what and fairly quick .


    I had to roll back a couple of Insider builds until the next one since 10240 RTM (I was tempted on some others ) and also to clean install on those but new builds rolled in ~ soon enough anyway


    ofc.like anybody that been around Windows for a while I was very tempted to try clean installs on some of the builds that mis behaved since 10240 RTM and for all I know that might have fixed all that anyway.


    I wont knock anyone for preferring a clean install I been using windows long enough to know better since Win 3.1 and DOS to be exact .


    There is a new WD notification Icon in the task bar notification area that's fine with me I'm on a 27" and 4K 55" second screen here on this box anyway .


    All the basic search bar/task bar /start menu ,Chrome Browser and Windows run tume apps ,mail client and desktop seem fine along with desktop,task bar and start menu tile positions (this time) .


    Some of my previously *(always slow to load on any OS )* x86 .exe desktop programs are loading significantly faster now some virtually instantly and on a metal hdd no less . I always check that with a new build just because and this is the first time I've seen any significant improvement . We'll see if all that holds up on those specific x86.exe programs and the others stay tuned .


    I'm thinking maybe they did some more code optimization and maybe HDD and physical memory compression and or memory caching improvements to the motor .


    I'm thinking of running Pass-mark x64 memory & hdd I/O throughput benchmarks and comparing those results to prior Insider builds & (Prior Windows 7 x64 results ) all on the same NTFS hdd and configuration .


    FWIW these specific benchmarks have been unfailingly and significantly slower on Windows 10 and *all the test builds* than win 7 x64 sp1 since I started keeping data in ~late Jan 2015 or specifically (9926 ) or whatever it was ...*maybe something has changed today * stay tuned .


    OTOH I'm going to be busy for the next week or so with the EA & bansters and maybe managed fund folks looking for some signigficant large in 2015 tax remediation strategy or deferred tax diversified investment this year it's criminal what they do to some of us for making a buck or some decent cap gains or whatever
    Last edited by blutos cousin; 06 Apr 2016 at 22:31.
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  2.    06 Apr 2016 #102
    Join Date : Oct 2014
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    win 10 Insider

    EDGE
    - wonder when an ad blocker will be added? Ever? Give me Ghostery or an equivalent.
    - wonder when the glacial changes to Favorites editing/adding will speed up? We can now have names or no names but not some with names and some without. And we can't drag a new site and drop it onto the Favorites bar. And, to top it off, the name edit only shows the new name for the first change. After that, it requires you to restart Edge to see the change!

    This is just amateurish. It may be a good browser but most of us won't know because we want the simple things done right before we switch.
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  3.    06 Apr 2016 #103
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    latest windows insider home build

    Quote Originally Posted by linw View Post
    EDGE
    - wonder when an ad blocker will be added? Ever? Give me Ghostery or an equivalent.
    - wonder when the glacial changes to Favorites editing/adding will speed up? We can now have names or no names but not some with names and some without. And we can't drag a new site and drop it onto the Favorites bar. And, to top it off, the name edit only shows the new name for the first change. After that, it requires you to restart Edge to see the change!

    This is just amateurish. It may be a good browser but most of us won't know because we want the simple things done right before we switch.
    AMEN...

    I keep trying to make Edge my default browser, but, as you say, it can't do the simple things properly yet, so there is no way any sort of power user will use it until it does..
    I mean, you can't even use LastPass for your saved passwords at this point...
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  4.    06 Apr 2016 #104
    Join Date : Apr 2015
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    W10Prox64

    Quote Originally Posted by BunnyJ View Post
    Edge now has a paste and go option.. nice.
    Finally! But that's not enough....
    Quote Originally Posted by wase4711 View Post
    AMEN...
    I keep trying to make Edge my default browser, but, as you say, it can't do the simple things properly yet, so there is no way any sort of power user will use it until it does..
    I mean, you can't even use LastPass for your saved passwords at this point...
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  5.    06 Apr 2016 #105
    Join Date : Jul 2015
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    Windows 10 Pro x64 Build 17046

    Anyone knows about Test Taker installed on this build 14316?
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  6.    06 Apr 2016 #106
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    Windows 10 Pro

    Quote Originally Posted by linw View Post
    Off, AGAIN, here, as well. I wonder why we can't be told why they would do this? Just like I wondered why it took months to tell us they had stuffed the network discovery!!

    That aside, installed fine, as usual, and runs well.
    This is just a guess. I think they turn system restore off to make sure that someone won't to do a system restore with a older restore point and corrupt the new build.
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  7.    06 Apr 2016 #107
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    Windows 10 Pro

    Build 14316 downloaded and installed OK. So far I haven't noticed any problems.
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  8.    06 Apr 2016 #108
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    Windows 10 Pro x64 RS 10586.586

    Quote Originally Posted by Winuser View Post
    Build 14316 downloaded and installed OK. So far I haven't noticed any problems.
    Hmm.......!
    Known issues

    •The Visual Studio emulator for Windows 10 Mobile and Hololens will fail with “An authentication error has occurred. The Local Security Authority cannot be contacted”. If you are a developer and require the emulator for building apps, we suggesting moving to the Slow ring and skipping this build until we can fix this issue.
    •We continue to investigate issues with Narrator and other screen reader apps that make them unable to read selected text in the Feedback Hub, Cortana, and other apps.
    •In Microsoft Edge, some large downloads may appear to get stuck at 99% completion. You can work around this issue by renaming the file in your downloads after closing Microsoft Edge. This workaround skips security checks on the file, so it should be used only with files from a trusted source.
    •In some cases, attempting to turn on Developer Mode on may crash the Settings app. If this happens, the workaround is to use these steps here to enable Developer Mode.
    •Some apps notifications may only show the icon – however the full text of the notification will be visible within Action Center.
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  9.    06 Apr 2016 #109
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    win 10 Insider

    Quote Originally Posted by Winuser View Post
    This is just a guess. I think they turn system restore off to make sure that someone won't to do a system restore with a older restore point and corrupt the new build.
    You are probably right but I just wonder why it can't be switched back on after the old restore points have been deleted.
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  10.    06 Apr 2016 #110
    Join Date : Oct 2014
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    Windows 10 Pro Insider Preview build 15058

    Tried installing Cortana on my Android phone. My Moto E has marshmallow 6.0 and it went in flawlessly configured itself and I tried a few simple things that worked well. No time tonight have to wait till tomorrow to see how shipshape she is on Android.
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