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  1.    04 Apr 2016 #21
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jody Thornton View Post
    Some argue on the XP Forums (Eatup was one of them who used to be here as well) that any kernel based on Windows NT 6x was inferior for gaming, because of slower frame rate issues (I suppose it was because of Aero and Window Compositioning). Thus the claim that Vista, 7, 8x and 10 were inferior for gaming. Is there any truth to that?


    He wrote this to me on the XP Forums:
    Dude, you obviously aren't a gamer. Why do we want to give up 50%+ increase in frame-rate by running 7/8.1 just to see the same visuals outputted to the screen?

    He does mention it again here
    Why do you still use XP? - Page 2
    I don't believe what he says. Windows 10 is so much better than XP will ever be. I even thought Windows Vista was faster than XP, sorry off-topic there But anyway back to my point, no, I don't believe that, I think anything past XP will give 50% INCREASE, but I could be wrong. Thanks for posting that!
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  2.    04 Apr 2016 #22

    Yeah because even with my older HP system (basically P4-stlye Netburst based Xeons) I find that even Windows 8 (while it's only slightly less-compatible with XP-era applications) it seems to use more of what the system is capable of.

    I'm not a gamer (except for old DOS era games once in a blue moon), but as for applications it seems there has been a world of improvements in recent Windows builds.
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  3.    04 Apr 2016 #23
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scottyboy99 View Post
    I'm surprised Windows 10 is top. It basically destroyed the ability to play half my game library circa 2002-2010 when they squashed securom and safedisc (this was a PC that came with 10 so no re enabling that service for me). But I guess steam is different because their games don't have these technologies. But I would of thought in the overall scheme of things Windows 7 is still no.1 for gaming
    Windows 10x64 is the best there is for gaming...I collect games (old and new) as a hobby and between GOG & Steam & EA I have somewhere around ~250 games--and at least a dozen or more of that number are DOS games 20-30 years old--if not older. Windows 10x64 runs every one of them perfectly. SecureROM and Safedisk turned out to be vectors commonly used for viruses and malware--it was good of Microsoft to kill them off. (Many steam games have no DRM attached today; and all GOG games are blessedly free of it!)

    Here's how I rate the past four Microsoft OSes on backwards compatibility for running older Windows games:

    least compatible: Windows Vista (There was nothing really "wrong" with Vista, but Microsoft changed the driver model from the ground up, and some GPU IHVs were very slow to field solid drivers, not to mention the fact that Vista required about one gigabyte more system ram on average than any Windows version before it, IIRC.)
    Less compatible than I would have believed at the time: Windows 7x64 (Many games I had at the time--and I don't mean just 16-bit games because those all run fine under Dosbox in Windows--simply would not run at all on Windows 7. However, most of those games ran fine under Win8/8.1x64; and all of them run under Windows 10x64!)
    Very compatible: Windows 8/.1 (Runs everything almost but not quite as well as they run under Win10x64. Had to use DEP exceptions for many games in 8.1--some just wouldn't run at all. Windows 8/.1 was severely hampered at the outset by a horrid GUI that to this day I can't stand and never use with Win10...;))
    Total Compatiblity: Windows 10x64. (As I said, I have no game that won't run under Win10x64 atm. It is rare that I have found making a DEP exception to be necessary to get a game to run. Win10 is pretty much what Win8 should have been originally, etc. )

    If we say that Vista was "Vista 1.x" then Windows 7 was "Vista 2.5" and Windows 8/.1 was "Vista 3.x" and Windows 10 is actually "Vista 5.x"....;) (According to my own personal, convoluted scale, of course.)

    My two cents on the subject...;)
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  4.    04 Apr 2016 #24
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jody Thornton View Post
    Yeah because even with my older HP system (basically P4-stlye Netburst based Xeons) I find that even Windows 8 (while it's only slightly less-compatible with XP-era applications) it seems to use more of what the system is capable of.

    I'm not a gamer (except for old DOS era games once in a blue moon), but as for applications it seems there has been a world of improvements in recent Windows builds.
    So true
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  5.    04 Apr 2016 #25
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    Quote Originally Posted by waltc View Post
    If we say that Vista was "Vista 1.x" then Windows 7 was "Vista 2.5" and Windows 8/.1 was "Vista 3.x" and Windows 10 is actually "Vista 5.x".... (According to my own personal, convoluted scale, of course.)

    My two cents on the subject...
    I like that way that you put it! Nice! My question - Do you think Vista was good system? I thought it the best when I got my first system, which was in 2012 (I was 12 almost 13 at the time ). It was a HP Pavilion dv6700 laptop that overheated and lost its life. I have read that those had an overheating problem, and that I just thought it wasn't worth it to keep living.

    I think when I was 14, I really got into them and knew a lot about them. Now, I know a lot more than I did before.
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