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  1.    02 Apr 2016 #281
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    Quote Originally Posted by Word Man View Post
    Not using a mouse, just a touchpad. I click on the size column and install.esd pops right to the top, no wheeling needed.
    I hate touch pads even the Logitech touch pad in the studio here or the one on my HP Elite book but the Logitech is OK when you have the large monitors & subs on and are just listening to some project's or commercial music and you and or a few folks are sitting back away from the sweet spot or "the chair " at the workstation in front between the near fields !

    My TV voice remote has one also and Sony went cheap on the touch sensor it's kinda dodgy so I just use the regular remote . ofc. I could pair a phone or tard pad to it and maybe any of the 4 W-10 PC's here's and some of all that stuff better anyway but this PC in (this room) is connected to HDMI 4 on the TV anyway it's my second screen .

    Not that anybody cares about all this I typed .......but it's good to have choices
    Last edited by blutos cousin; 03 Apr 2016 at 13:58.
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  2.    02 Apr 2016 #282
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    Quote Originally Posted by Winuser View Post
    That's the same thing I do. I use to make the ISO file as soon as I got the install.esd file. Now I just copy the install.esd to a folder on a different drive in case I need it.
    One question: I just noticed, that the ESDtoISO tool has been updated in january an I have been using the old one. Are my ISOs corrupted?
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  3.    02 Apr 2016 #283
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    Quote Originally Posted by AndreTen View Post
    One question: I just noticed, that the ESDtoISO tool has been updated in january an I have been using the old one. Are my ISOs corrupted?
    Depends on which builds you have. The previous crypto keys used in the tool made an ISO but then when trying to use that ISO to install, it failed.

    I suggest you download the current tool and re-create your latest ISO. That's the reason why I have posted this after every new build in ESDtoISO thread:
    Quote Originally Posted by Kari View Post
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  4.    02 Apr 2016 #284
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wynona View Post
    Mine's an M510 (can you say one-upmanship?). .
    yea but I can talk to my TV in here and have it do pretty much anthing Anrdoid & Sony and fetch me programs ,movies ,sports ,stats ,weather ,Stocks,channels , You Tube ,Google search and plenty of other stuff and it can talk back to me too


    Quote Originally Posted by Wynona View Post
    Mine's wireless and does the same things. I bought it and the keyboard as a package for $39.00. Just plug in the dongle and the mouse and keyboard are all set up without Windows having to fine 'em.

    Still, not everyone has the good (and cheap) stuff, so it's good to let 'em know how far they need to scroll down
    Sounds like you got a good deal on all that and your mouse the last wireless mouse I had was too slow but was cheap no name and not a Logitec

    Logitech stuff usually works well I been using some of thier Joysticks & mice since XP & before that ..I still have my USB Logitech thrust master or whatever it is from Win 95 or 98 but I use the G27 wheel or a hacked PS3 controller or KB+_mouse on PC gaming now .
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  5.    02 Apr 2016 #285
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kari View Post
    Depends on which builds you have. The previous crypto keys used in the tool made an ISO but then when trying to use that ISO to install, it failed.

    I suggest you download the current tool and re-create your latest ISO. That's the reason why I have posted this after every new build in ESDtoISO thread:
    Thanks for replay.
    And that's probably the reason, why smart users saved ISOs and esd files. I have only ISOs . OK, at least there is download to latest ISO.
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  6.    02 Apr 2016 #286
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    Quote Originally Posted by blutos cousin View Post
    yea but I can talk to my TV in here and have it do pretty much anthing Anrdoid & Sony and fetch me programs ,movies ,sports ,stats ,weather ,Stocks,channels , You Tube ,Google search and plenty of other stuff and it can talk back to me too
    I'm kinda used to TV talking to me, I'm afraid it might take offense on my comments, specially on politics.
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  7.    02 Apr 2016 #287
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    Originally Posted by Kari
    Depends on which builds you have. The previous crypto keys used in the tool made an ISO but then when trying to use that ISO to install, it failed.

    I suggest you download the current tool and re-create your latest ISO. That's the reason why I have posted this after every new build in ESDtoISO thread:

    Thanks for the heads up I think I downloaded one well before this insider build. I still haven't made an ISO from the 14295 ESD I copied yet but it worked last time I needed to use an ISO so I probably have your January update
    it wasnt quite that far back IRRC but I'll download it anyway .
    I keep the ESD's I want to keep in the same named folders as the ISO's and delete the older ones beyond maybe 3 test builds or the turds if I don't make DVD coasters out of the good ones
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  8.    02 Apr 2016 #288
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    Quote Originally Posted by AndreTen View Post
    Thanks for replay.
    And that's probably the reason, why smart users saved ISOs and esd files. I have only ISOs . OK, at least there is download to latest ISO.
    Your ISO might still work, you can always test it by installing Windows to a virtual machine. My system to keep the tool up to date is not very scientific; In late January I noticed that ISO I made was created just OK, no errors, but when using it in test install on a Hyper-V vm, the install failed due "corrupted install media".

    Repeated the test on a real physical PC, same error. Got a new ESD from another machine, made a second ISO from this different ESD of the same build and bit version. Same install media error on both virtual and physical computers. Hunted down more current crypto keys and updated the tool.

    I always do the same test cycle before posting about if the tool was updated or not. Two installs, one virtual one real. That's the extent of my "scientific approach".

    Based on the above, I can say that an ISO made from the current Insider build and a few previous ones works if and when it is done using the tool available for download now, which was updated late January. Using an older version of the tool might or might not work in creating a functioning Windows install media.
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  9.    02 Apr 2016 #289
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kari View Post
    Your ISO might still work, you can always test it by installing Windows to a virtual machine. My system to keep the tool up to date is not very scientific; In late January I noticed that ISO I made was created just OK, no errors, but when using it in test install on a Hyper-V vm, the install failed due "corrupted install media".

    Repeated the test on a real physical PC, same error. Got a new ESD from another machine, made a second ISO from this different ESD of the same build and bit version. Same install media error on both virtual and physical computers. Hunted down more current crypto keys and updated the tool.

    I always do the same test cycle before posting about if the tool was updated or not. Two installs, one virtual one real. That's the extent of my "scientific approach".

    Based on the above, I can say that an ISO made from the current Insider build and a few previous ones works if and when it is done using the tool available for download now, which was updated late January. Using an older version of the tool might or might not work in creating a functioning Windows install media.
    Thanks again. Providing us this tool is a lifesaver!
    Not much damage done here anyway. I'll download the latest ISO from MS.

    And, BTW - looks scientific enough for me
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  10.    02 Apr 2016 #290
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    I can attest to that Kari.

    I used the current ESDtoISO tool (downloaded 3/26) using the install.esd file from my updated insider VM. I then made a flash drive and used it to upgrade my Toshiba laptop to 14295. Worked perfectly.
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